Still Standing Amid the Wreckage

     The New Urbanists held their big annual meet-up for four days last week and I stomped a big carbon footprint flying down to West Palm Beach for the doings. I don't know who exactly picked West Palm, but it was at once peculiar, disheartening, instructive, and exhausting.
   The Congress for the New Urbanism has been throwing this yearly fandango since its founding in 1993 as a fire-eating reform movement dedicated to transforming the horrifying and toxic human habitat of America. Hopes were lofty in the early days that the US public would recognize the self-evident benefits of ditching suburban sprawl for walkable towns, but it didn't quite work out that way. The last frantic phase of sprawl-building commenced exactly the same time, jacked on easy lending steroids, and upping 
the stakes of the battle. That story ended in the baleful collapse of the housing bubble and the sad particulars need not be rehearsed here.
     During the boom of the 90s and aughties, about 99.5 percent of the new real estate development was done by the conventional schlock sprawl-builders and the New Urbanists did much of the remaining .5 - which was enough to get their point across. Some of their projects (e.g. Seaside, Fla.) are now iconic examples of excellence in urban design artistry. Many others were botched by compromises made in the planning board battles, and another bunch were either half-assed from the get-go or plain fakes. These traditional neighborhood developments were almost always built on greenfield sites, provoking controversy that could not be briskly dismissed.
   At the same time, quite a bit of New Urbanist work was done in re-making existing town centers and in retrofits of sclerotic older suburban parcels, and their influence was later seen in the many big city streetscape redesigns from Times Square to Santa Monica. Their laborious work in reforming the intricate idiocies of zoning law made possible better development outcomes in towns all over the land which adopted so-called Smart Codes. 
     The housing bubble bust massacred the New Urbanists. Many of the firms had tied their fortunes to the production house builders and the commercial real estate developers doing large projects, often hundreds of acres, and when the market imploded around 2007 their work dried up. Now there is very little new real estate development of any kind going on around the country. Many talents languish while the nation broods over the fate of its obsolete suburban dream and fails to recognize that we have to make drastically new arrangements for inhabiting the landscape.
     But the mood at the 2012 CNU was still buoyant, considering. For all their vocational anguish, the New Urbanists are still about the only intellectual cohort in the USA with a coherent vision of what has gone wrong in our society -- our ruinous investments in futureless infrastructure -- and what can be done about it -- the reconstruction of traditional human habitat as the armature for enduring economies. Compared with the brainless religious zealotry and sexual hysteria of the right wing and the ruinous social services pandering of the left, the New Urbanists look like the only organized group of adults in the nation who have not completely lost their minds. So it was a pleasure to spend four days among them. They are a valiant band of cultural warriors.
     Events are now in the driver's seat. The long battle against the continuation of suburban sprawl is over, despite the happy-talk noises made by what's left of the real estate industry. Half a decade of absolutely flat oil production -- propaganda to the contrary -- guarantees that the suburban project is finished. We're done building things that way (even if we don't quite realize it yet) so the New Urbanists have won the argument by default. 
     Quite a few non-New Urbanist "pundits" such as Ed Glaeser, the asinine Joel Kotkin, and dashing Richard Florida predict that the action has shifted to the big cities, and that may appear to be the case for this deceptive moment. But the mega-cities are in for a tsunami of troubles all their own in the form of vanishing wealth, fiscal disorder, sclerotic infrastructure failures, service interruptions, and ethnic turf battles as the effects of the epochal economic contraction bite deeper and harder. The inescapable downscaling of America means that we are heading toward a new disposition of things on the landscape in just the way the New Urbanists have prescribed: a declension of ecologies ranging from dense, walkable human-dominated urban habitats in the form of traditional towns and cities through a range of rural conditions running from farmland to wilderness necessary to support the health of the planet.
      Time and nature will help take care of the accumulated suburban dreck on the ground. Humans are very skillful sorters of things and the disassembly of salvaged materials will be a big industry in a world taking a "time out" from industrial progress. The timeless principles that the New Urbanists revived will be the common sense of whatever we build in the future, even when the planning board battles of recent years are long forgotten. We will almost certainly return to social conditions in which nobody will dare put up a building devoid of conscious artistry. There's a lot to like in this quadrant of the long emergency.
   The 20th reunion of old CNU friends was a little disenchanted by the conference site. West Palm Beach contains one of their showpiece projects, the nightlife and shopping district called City Place that was created out of a bombed out neighborhood. Casual observers crack on City Place as an "urban mall," but it's really just Rosemary Street rebuilt of new traditionally-scaled buildings with shops and bistros programmed in. A lot of it is generic chain business. Another sad element is the cartoonish, low quality finish of the buildings - sprayed on stucco and ornaments with no conviction. Both of these failures of quality represent the fast buck mentality of the big commercial developers and the larger vulgar so-called consumer culture they served. But City Place does include some pretty well composed public space in the form of a central plaza and a palm court running off it, and it was full of people enjoying themselves in the cafes those nights, and the ensemble managed to incorporate a very nice Beaux Arts church-turned-theater (the Harriet Himmel) in the Spanish neo-classical manner.
     The trouble was when you strayed a block off Rosemary Street the fabric of the city fell apart. Some of it was just vacant land. Further east between Olive Street and the intercostal waterway stood a swath of oversized giant condo towers that represented the worst of the lamented housing bubble. Many were "see-through" buildings of empty, unsold units. The streets along these behemoths were as dead as any neighborhood on a Zombie planet, and traversing them to get anywhere was hugely depressing. The convention center, where the CNU meeting actually took place, stood off in its own twilight zone of separation, cut off from the beginning of City Place by the ghastly ten-lane Okeechobee Boulevard. The five-block walk (of very large super-blocks) to and fro from my hotel was like unto reenacting the Bataan Death March under that brutal Floridian sun.
     Things are changing fast now though. The New Urbanists still standing are the strongest and most nimble. They are also the ones most deeply engaged in the trenches of architectural education, and they are as certain to win the ideology battles still raging in that realm as they won the battle over suburban sprawl.
     Most of all, though, I'm glad to be home in my quiet backwater of this poor floundering nation.

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Banking is the heart of the financial system, and the financial system is the heart of modern civilization. When banking stumbled in 2008, the whole house of cards that is our industrial civilization shook. When banking stumbles in 2012, is the house of cards going to finally fall?

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Food and water, then shelter. Pleasing to the eye shelter?.....far down the list.

Great recap of the conference, Jim. Looking forward to hearing recordings of some of the panel discussions.

I'll admit I was hoping this morning for something about Europe, the Middle East, or at least a mention of JP Morgan. Reality is making itself more known to more people every day; and many of us look to public intellectuals like you to help us contextualize and make sense of the accelerating torrent of bad news.

I'd recommend your readers find an interview or two with Steve Keen, the Australian economics professor who's called for a Modern Debt Jubilee (like the student one you advocated a few weeks ago, but wider) as a way to reduce debt without decreasing income or ability to spend-a "Quantitative Easing for the Public" instead of banks. What resonates with me is his assertion that the system has failed, not the individuals in it.

Very nice. Thank you.

I'm glad to read an entry of yours that has more praise than condemnation. I'm even more pleased to see that you're recognizing people who are actually doing something useful. While you have a real talent for calling people morons, it gets tedious reading month after month of it.

My students get an eyeful of the New Urbanism when they watch "The End of Suburbia," and they generally like it. I use that as an opportunity to point out the walkable neighborhoods in the area, all of which are considered great places to live, work, and play. I feel fortunate to be living on the edge of one, and blog about the pleasures of living there occasionally. I haven't done so lately, but the season of good weather is yet young.

Over at Crazy Eddie's Motie News, I've been concentrating on a bigger picture than walkable neighborhoods. The two most recent posts have contrasted the major party candidates for President on marriage equality, with Willard Scissorhands the Barber of Severe against Barack Obama. I also celebrated Mother's Day, summarized the week's stories on Space, compiled the sustainability stories from universities in states on the campaign trail, examined auctions of mineral rights (the oil companies want to explore for oil and gas in some of the wealthier suburbs of Detroit, much to the consternation of the residents), promoted an article of mine about a referendum on taxes (it lost), recounted my involvement in the Michigan Democratic Caucuses, and continued a festival of sustainability videos my students used for their presentations last semester. It's been a busy week of blogging and I'm not done yet.

Happy Motoring--for now--from Detroit!

cognitive dissonance

Great story this week called "Demolitions leave an urban prairie: Can any of Buffalo's dilapidated houses be saved?"

"Mayor Byron W. Brown's administration has been on a demolition spree, with a goal of knocking down 5,000 buildings in five years, including those owned by private individuals and city redevelopment agencies. Coming on the heels of the Masiello administration, which demolished thousands more, a lot of buildings have come tumbling down."

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Krugman goes doomer:

Some of us have been talking it over, and here’s what we think the end game looks like:

1. Greek euro exit, very possibly next month.

2. Huge withdrawals from Spanish and Italian banks, as depositors try to move their money to Germany.

3a. Maybe, just possibly, de facto controls, with banks forbidden to transfer deposits out of country and limits on cash withdrawals.

3b. Alternatively, or maybe in tandem, huge draws on ECB credit to keep the banks from collapsing.

4a. Germany has a choice. Accept huge indirect public claims on Italy and Spain, plus a drastic revision of strategy — basically, to give Spain in particular any hope you need both guarantees on its debt to hold borrowing costs down and a higher eurozone inflation target to make relative price adjustment possible; or:

4b. End of the euro.

And we’re talking about months, not years, for this to play out.

Great story this week called "Demolitions leave an urban prairie: Can any of Buffalo's dilapidated houses be saved?"

"Mayor Byron W. Brown's administration has been on a demolition spree, with a goal of knocking down 5,000 buildings in five years, including those owned by private individuals and city redevelopment agencies. Coming on the heels of the Masiello administration, which demolished thousands more, a lot of buildings have come tumbling down."

Read more at the

A neighbor has taken to buying houses on my street in Minneapolis, ripping off the roof and turning the house into a rectangular box without affect, twice the size it was. Never mind, they plotted these streets north-south, so every house is in the neighbors shadow, and every other house at least is going to have to be torn down when fuel to heat them isn't available. He's a local hero, and me in my little 750 sq ft house I'm hoping to take off the grid, in my permaculture garden, am the villain.

JP Morgan "lost" $2 billion, but where did it go? Did it just vanish? Or did someone else make $2 billion? If it just vanished was it ever really there to begin with? If someone else has it now who are they?

I know not of the ways of high finance.

Aimlow Joe was here

Unsustainable at ANY level is the thing. Period.

If we're going to hell in a handbasket as you have so elegantly expressed on numerous occasions, how are we going to afford all of the well-proportioned dwellings in charming landscapes that you foresee in the Church of the New Urbanists? When chaos reigns as you insist is upon us, won't you look silly sitting in your artsy-fartsy dreamscape, waiting for the torches and pitchforks.

"Quite a few non-New Urbanist "pundits" such as Ed Glaeser, the asinine Joel Kotkin, and dashing Richard Florida predict that the action has shifted to the big cities, and that may appear to be the case for this deceptive moment. But the mega-cities are in for a tsunami of troubles all their own in the form of vanishing wealth, fiscal disorder, sclerotic infrastructure failures, service interruptions, and ethnic turf battles as the effects of the epochal economic contraction bite deeper and harder." -JHK

Senor Kunstler,
These fun "inconveniences" wrapped into a messy ball of twine along with Greer's explanation of the trajectory of "anacyclosis" (of which we are now locked into the third stage, exemplified by political gridlock) is going to make the "theories" of servicable towns and downscaled cities an absolute necessity for continuation of the species. (I'm liking your characterization of "winners by default". Assuredly.) Cheap, freely available energy makes for flimsy building practices. "When it goes to pieces in a few years, we'll throw up another piece of overvalued crap; job security, don'cha know!" This option is busily extinguishing itself.

Thanks for another insightful article and some new names to peek into.

As a humble sole practitioner of this ancient profession I have endeavored to deploy traditional development models here in the suburban vacuum on the fringes of the San Antonio metroplex, an impossible juxtaposition of municipalities without distinction, each competing for the next box chain, guaranteeing a place for every spurious short sighted development idea the lowest denominators can produce. I can only report the most minimal forward progress. (one tnd masterplan adopted and later scuttled, one residence in a struggling tnd which is teetering on the precipice of failure and a small drawer full of concepts produced for real world scenarios which have not found purchase.) There is little appetite for understanding why the form of things is what it is or how it could be different. There are many fine grain reasons that this stuff is damn near impossible.For some ridiculous reason I'm about to rewax my wings and try it again. Once more into the breech.

Boy, wouldn't it be great if the CNU actually voted with their dollars and held their conferences in places that are walkable, accessable by train, etc etc. Instead, they support through their patronage the very people who claim that a city needs a white elephant convention center, 10-lane boulevards, and miles of surface parking to be economically viable.

"City Place" is one of those "me too" developments pushed by politicians. They are trying to replicate the success of "happening" places further south such as South Beach (in Miami) and 17th Street Causeway (in Fort Lauderdale). Both South Beach and 17th St Causeway are successful, while City Place and Del Ray Beach's Atlantic Avenue are failures.

My reason for the success of the 2 and the failure of the other 2 is that both South Beach and 17th St Causeway started off as gay ghettos in the 70s and 80s. These 2 neighborhoods acquired many gay and gay-friendly businesses. Richard Florida would have said that these neighborhoods attracted the "creative class". Coffee shops, gay bars and night clubs, art galleries, theatres that played unusual movies (that you could not see at the cookie-cutter multiplex down at the mall). Things like this. People would drive for miles to visit a couple places, and as the neighborhood became more popular, many of the gay businesses would move out due to rising rents and real estate prices. But the "gravity" that attracted people remains.

City Place, like Atlantic Avenue, and the pedestrian mall in your downtown city, are trying to replicate the successes of South Beach and 17th Street Causeway, without the pesky undesirables that made those neighborhoods attractive to customers and shoppers. They were trying to obtain the end result without the actual organic growth that got it there in the first place. As a result, City Place, Atlantic Ave and your local downtown district subsidize businesses to relocate there. But due to the lack of the creative classes, and the lack of organic growth, these businesses fold, or move away, once the subsidies run out. As a result, politicians waste large amounts of taxpayers' money trying to bypass reality.

Footnote: South Beach became run down due to airline deregulation in the 1970s. It became cheaper for people to fly to a warm beach in another country than to go to the hotels and beaches of Miami. Many hotels closed, some hung on barely until their clientele died off. Much like the demise of the Borscht Belt in the Catskills. 17th Street Causeway probably had the same history, but suffered from the excesses of Broward County Sheriff Navarro who loved to raid gay bars with the news media filming everyone hauled out, trying to return to the pre-Stonewall era.

It's ironic that some early suburban development "got it." My local shopping center has gone through three phases of redevelopment since the 50s. Now, after ripping out a central mall dropped from the sky in the late 80s, pedestrian traffic again circulates to and through it from the residential areas all around. Public transit, including a frequent and popular bus line to the old downtown, uses it as a hub.

It is a case of accidental New Urbanism. But even a few nods in that direction improved life for us.

There's little chance of that in newer malls, isolated from anyone's abode by six lanes of death. Those from the 80s and 90s build-out are dying all around us.

One thing I noticed in a trip to the far 'burbs is, frankly, how the quality of building materials for commerce (brick, cinder block, structural steel, metal roofing) surpasses that for residences (cheap shingle roofs + vinyl siding over house-wrapped OSB and wood framing).

There are 50-year composite shingles that can take 110 mph winds, and I and a helper put one on the house. It was hard but rewarding work. Yet most home-owners could not tell a good shingle from a case of the Shingles. And they'd never know how to redo their own roofs.

Sigh...what a bunch of peasants in the making.

But the way our local "shopping center" looks more and more like a little village of durable buildings gives me hope that something liveable will arise from the ashes of the Oil Age.

Excellent Questions Joe!

The 'lost 2 billion' went exactly where are this created, pretend 'wealth' will soon go; right back into to thin air from which it was created. Poof! In other words, it never existed in a concrete way.

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I'm surprised you use Seaside as successful example for this group. While very beautiful, it is anything but sustainable. Perched on the edge of the Gulf it is neither self sufficient or viable when your peak oil prophesy comes true. Nothing really edible grows in sand & there are no close ports for fishing boats. It relies solely on tourists that drive hundreds of miles who pay $4000 a week & up to rent a cottage so they can bask in the sun on the sugar white beaches & eat $8.00 cones of ice cream.

One small query:
From whence flows all this abundant water in San Antone'? (Riverwalks, marine zoos, etc.)

Just curious as to the long-term viability of the place. Tourism [as economic life-blood] lasts as long as cheap transport; no longer.

We will almost certainly return to social conditions in which nobody will dare put up a building devoid of conscious artistry.

Ha ha ha, I nearly came to tears reading this mis-stated, mistaken notion.

JK, you need to run around Mexico City and Kingston for awhile. Some of the places where the pavement gives way to that "disassembled" city scape you speak of.

We are headed for new-urban landscapes. But they may be named for there best name-sakes "Bush Town" and "Romney-ville" ......

At any rate - few people "get it", and most of those who do are making what's left of the "hay days" to hide away in their own caves.

Jim, you paint a charming picture of small town life straight out of Norman Rockwell. The problem is 319 million souls need decent housing and the record book on this is one of persistent failure. Basically it comes down to human nature and it's violent proclivities. You are, I think talking high density, and that hasn't worked anywhere but Holland, China and Japan to name a few off the top of my head. I see the gated community of the affluent with private security guards to keep the riffraff at bay and the rest will having to fend for themselves as the future. This nation is not capable of strategic planning as it consists of two peoples (red and Blue) co mingled. Here is a stunning example of the failure of planning.

'I stomped a big carbon footprint flying down to West Palm Beach for the doings' I'm going to use that lingo...

"Threw up a 10kW system this week but then I stomped out a big carbon footprint with the boat down the lake"

Best advice for now is to follow some rabbit holes as deep as you can, startling similar conclusions abound...


The suburbs are #1. Who wants to live with a bunch of ____? Fill in your favorite minority.

Is the Kunstler Cast Dead ?

Here's hoping they name the new replacement crapola "Sherwood Forest", although it will be hard to tell who the robbers and rob-ees might be. ;o)

Buildings proposed that depend on elevators, when the UK is in a serious energy predicament? Are these folks totally unaware that the pumps have failed in their leaky ship of state?? Rule Brittania... (blub-blub)

If the USA goes down, the rest of the world will go with it. This nation has been a noble experiment, with a great constitution, but has been corrupted by greed. It is still full of great human beings and is a fertile place for creativity. We have some serious challenges coming down, but after the shit hits the fan, we will pick up the pieces and get to work building a world made by hand. FDR said it so well, "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself".

Thanks for the important historical context.
From what little I've borne the baking streets of Florida, I wouldn't live there unless forced. (Without the continuation of ubiquitous air conditioning, I don't see how many others will live there in future.)

In simple terms what the JP Morgan loss means is that JPMorgan made bets with other banks. JPMorgan lost the bets. What is JP Morgan's loss is the other gamblers' gain. JPMorgan is going to have to pay off. No money was lost. It's just changing hands.

You see, the same sort of thing happened with AIG. AIG made bets with other banks. AIG lost the bets, the Feds firehosed money into AIG so it could make good on the bets it lost. Who got the money? Big outfits. Outfits like Goldmans.

Neat game eh? The Fed prints money so that losers can make good on bets. The winners walk away with so much money in the pockets their pants are falling down.

I had a teacher once, who was a student of Rem Koolhaas, who said that cities were failures in glass, brick, and concrete. CNU, while admirable in their pursuits, I am afraid they are more like a match on a fire. If cities are failures then it is because man has failed to live in accordance to his true nature. The only way to transform cities is to transform humanity, but as you have said before people will try to sustain the unsustainable at all costs. We have gone way too far to admit that much of what we have done was, or is, wrong. We simply can not accept that as an outcome (self-delusion). We live in an Existential Vacuum. In that vacuum people do what others do (conformism) or do what others tell them to do (totalitarianism). Their nihilistic frustration is compensated by a will to power, or a will to money. It is a shame there are no real leaders among us, only opportunists.

That kind of modified McMansionism is going on a lot in my neighborhood. The little one-story ranchburgers are morphing into two-story hybrid residences as you describe, making JHKs assertion that "the suburban project is finished" laughable. Housing as investment has triumphed over housing as, well, housing. The concepts of civitas and public has been appropriated by the marketers and real estate industry and twisted into live, work, play "communities" that are anything but affordable except for the wealthy. The word "community" has been so abused of late as to be utterly meaningless. I don't really see or, more important, sense any community in most of what we call suburbia. I see enclaves and hyper-individualism with everyone focusing on building their own particular "lifestyle" based on the superficialities of the trend mongers, be it fixed-gear bikes or designer rescue pit bulls. People are sending each other pictures of expensive, "artisanal" meals over their i-phones rather than turning back and front yards into victory gardens (too much actual work, and the homeowners association would not stand for it). It's all so untoward.

The New Urbanists certainly come at our predicament from sturdier ground than other land use organizations, though I'm skeptical about just how much their members embrace the reality of resource depletion, Jim. Based in discussion I've had with many of them, I'd say less than you think.

I admire the work of the ones who do, though. There are many of us planners out there trying to come at this thing from the right ideological footing so we can deal with the inevitabilities with dignity. Our cities' citizens deserve it.


I wonder whether Obama has the guts to come out of the closet and admit that he's a homosexual?

"...ruinous social services pandering of the left..." Please tell us what you're referring to. Are the "social services" ruinous, or is it just the pandering? This kind of writing smacks of phony "both sides do it" centrism which allows oil cartels to manipulate half of the US voting population with quasi-religious crap. Should I simply hand over my contribution to Social Security to a cadre of ultra-wealthy interlopers to help them avoid paying taxes, because to do otherwise is "ruinous"? Or is it the pandering? I tend to doubt it, as there is no greater pandering than phony centrism. Or is it that we waste too much of our energy dealing with the rights of people who you don't like?
As much as I cringe when you lament scary young black men and uppity homosexuals, at least then you're not dismissing the New Deal out of hand as you do today.

"ornaments with no conviction"

A brilliant phrase! I instantly thought of the scene from that unintentionally hilarious film version of Ayn Rand's "The Fountainhead," where the pusillanimous architecture committee slaps faux classical moldings onto the model of Rourk's bold but sterile tower.

This simple "conviction" test should be the question asked of every visible non-structural component of a design!

I also connected with the "see-through buildings of empty, unsold units" imagery; we have a recent townhouse development here that was completed just as the housing bubble burst, and maybe two or three of the 15 units are occupied, while the rest show no signs of any presence, as you can see through the un-curtained front window all the way back through the un-curtained rear window.

This is probably obvious to this thread of intelligent people, but in my town, the zoning laws seems like the problem. How does one even approach that kind of change, when a cities entire economy is relying on zoning that puts the highway next to the mall and the train station next to Target?

correction: city's

Before I delve into this week's (new) blog post there are a few loose ends needing tidying up from last night after I went beddy-bye.

It is becoming obvious that my OCD condition will be feasting on the posts of relative newcomer, Michigan Native. Let me just touch on a few doozers:

. simplisticity of your response
. capaccity to even entertain

I am very familiar with these screw-ups involving words ending in ity. I have been trying in vain for roughly 20 years to break my wife of the habit of saying ethnesticity. So for the record Mich, it's simplicity and capacity. And to my wife, it's ethnicity.

. Grasp your ears frimly and pull

This is probably the result of low-grade dyslexia. There is a candy factory/store up the block from me named Birn Chocolates. I cannot break my brother-in-law from saying Brin.

JHK says "We will almost certainly return to social conditions in which nobody will dare put up a building devoid of conscious artistry." I think he's totally wrong about that. People will put together whatever kind of necessarily buildings with the resources they have available, which may not be much. Buildings will necessarily be constructed of whatever materials may be available, and they won't be designed by architects or built by professional construction workers.

Chipolte drives me nuts. It's always been chipotle, and when I correct my friends they call me an elitist. Well excuuuuse me for wanting to use my first language properly and not sounding like an illiterate.

Yes, remember A Clockwork Orange. Alex often had to walk up the stairs.

I am surprised no one discussing the success of South Beach even mentioned the extreme hedonism that allows drop-dead gorgeous young women to walk down the beach wearing nothing but a thong as a cause...not that I'm complaining.

It all comes down to people and numbers. The math doesn't add up anymore.

Yes Lewis Mumford et al warned us long but we didn't listen. No we can only scurry out of the way as the Towers fall. Like the Maya, let us throw down our tools and flee.

Ever read the World Without Us? Suburbia will be gone in a couple of hundred years, but the Towers will last a long time. The author paints a pretty picture: the widnows will break and fall. Birds will come and make nests in the empty spaces. Plants will begin to grow out the the decayed nests. And soon they will look like the hanging gardens of Babylon.

Well excuuuuse me for wanting to use my first language properly...

Thank you berger for confirming that it is not "just me." There are at least two of us who give a shit.

It just leads to homosexuality in the end. The woman despise the men who ogle them - unless they are Jaimie Diamonds. And who wants to marry such diamond diggers?

As Nixon said, Greece and Rome went the same route. And Caligula was for Gay Marriage too.

I just realized that the Market is the White Whale and investors, the Ahabs. But everytime an Ahab makes a killing, there are fewer Whales for the rest of us. Money is infinite but it only becomes real for a brief moment before passing out of existence again. Quantum of solace for the losers. A more humble example: musical chairs. Everyone should be forced to play this and twister every week for one year. The population might explode lust is enkindled. Neighborhood Watches could go door to door collecting people for the games.

The international banking system has suffered a catastrophic failure and it is beyond redemption. It is being kept afloat by the people who have a vested interest in its survival and most of what we lose in this phase is probably not worth having in the first place. As the saying goes "the only way out is through."

Holland, China, and Japan? Yes, and the common feature? Homogeneity. Our Elite sold out any chance of a peaceful future for the quick bucks that come from third world coolie labor. And the Rush Limbaugh's want us to compete with that. Sure by becoming coolies ourselves....

I just realized that the Market............. door to door collecting people for the games.

Someday maybe we can sit down over a beer and you can explain this paragraph to me.

Good Post because it was upbeat and looking into the future with the glass half full. I am surprised though you didn't touch on the Chase Mahantten 2 billion dollar lose. All in all the demographics will change with the demise of the Baby Boom Generation. As the smaller population grows up, the suburbs will be smaller too, as well as the cities and boroughs. It would have been nice to have been part of a group of people who didn't have to compete so much for jobs, marriages, etc. The demographics of the baby boom parents was small too. They were responsible for the economic boom and growth of the suburbs after WWII. Maybe the future small generations will begin new methods of building and sprawling (or contracting). Our world was strained and burdened by the demands of the "entitled" baby boomers. It continues to strain and drain us. Only as they are put 10 feet under the ground, or vault, will the earth sigh a great breath of relief. Then again the earthworms and maggots will be having their population explosiion, (so to speak).

Good article, and you sound more cheerful today. The truly "walkable" towns are the small villages of the rust belt. The problem is, there are no jobs and the delightful brick buildings which once housed the downtown are vacant. They're not crumbling, the old brick masons were too good for that, but there is no business. The young have gone to other places, leaving the elderly in the placid village with no way to get food unless they hoof it to the gas station which sells milk, bread, potato chips and candy bars. Ohio has set up transportation connecting the three "Cs", Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati, but the rest of us are abandoned. Our village can't afford to provide a bus because the county is just too poor and there's no place to shop within walking distance. My husband and I are younger than the average age here, so we take a few residents with us when we go to town. Our best hope is for the nearest large town to suffer a devastating race riot, which looks like it's close, and wait for white flight. Then we're selling out and heading for Oklahoma. Instead of Florida, try visiting the small German Catholic communities of west central Ohio. They're immaculate, the churches and businesses are beautiful to behold, there are bare bones of commerce and the people, mostly attractive, walk and visit with each other while the children ride bicycles, play, flirt, depending on age. The Ohio version of Mayberry, perhaps, but the concept works. There is little to no diversity, but I no longer think that's a bad thing. Really, Jim, try this area. It's your dream come true to some extent, but while you might be able to copy the concept, you can't copy the ethnic population that makes this cluster so successful.

"Many other [New Urbanist projects] were botched by compromises made in the planning board battles, and another bunch were either half-assed from the get-go or plain fakes."

I'm not sure which of the above categories the Livingston Town Center in Livingston, NJ would fit in.

Say goodbye to New Urbanist mayor Jerry Fried of Montclair, NJ, whose term expires June 30.

Exactly, Helen.

This is the Kunstler contradiction that has bothered me for a long time, between his eye for aesthetics and the realities of declining resources.

Put simply, external appearances are a luxury only affordable by a society with a surplus of energy/money/capital.

Architects are one of the worst professions in this and the coming economy.

I don't know if he is, or not. It doesn't seem likely that he would ever confirm or deny that particular bit of info since he's so secretive about literally everything. The only behavior that makes me wonder is that Michelle flogs him to the public like a piece of merchandise, and they don't seem to have even an scintilla of attraction or a relationship. She allegedly lost her law license because of him, and I don't think it was because of sexual attraction, but a more plausible business relationship.

I am surprised though you didn't touch on the Chase Mahantten 2 billion dollar lose.

OMG, I find the above insufferable.

. The bank in question was JP Morgan Chase
. The borough you attempted to reference is spelled Manhattan
. it's loss not lose.

One sentence, so many fuck-ups.

Isn't it up to the "person" how they want to spell something? And if they want to be understood, they will do so phonetically.

Is this outrageous? No more so than your rejection of spiritual authority or people who say morality is subjective. It's just a later stage of the same lawlessness.

It's post modernism a la Becket and Joyce. Also my youthful partaking didn't hurt/help. The girders of the mind were not destroyed only loosened. I might not be able multiply in my head as well though.

To understand don't try to undstand. Rather let the rush of images and concepts flow over you like a tide. You will be amazed at where it takes you. Understanding can come later if at all. In any case, a fine ride is had.

The Post Modernism only strenghtened my Thomism by way of contrast. More than I ever I realize the necessity of clear logic and methodical, consecutive discourse. I retained the capacity thank God, and have nurtured it as well.

Great Men are often full of contradictions. Can you not respect his Pain? He knows, damn it, he knows. He yearns for the Beautiful City - as do we all. But it is not to be found so he writes of it.

Here's Felix Salmon's take on the JP Morgan debacle:

Especially noteworthy are his last 2 paragraphs:

It’s always dangerous when a CEO suggests positions for an internal hedge fund to take, because the CEO by definition has no risk manager with enough authority to effectively constrain him. Dimon is powerful and secure enough that he’s not going to lose his job over this. But he probably should. Partly because the bank’s risk-management procedures were so weak that a $2 billion loss could suddenly appear out of nowhere. Partly because Dimon became too cocky, and started thinking that his job was to trade the bank’s billions for profit. But mainly because he’s lost sight of what JP Morgan has to be, in a post-crisis world.

Those excess deposits weren’t gifted to Dimon on a plate so that he could gamble them on the CDX NA IG 9. Rather, Dimon’s job is to take those deposits and lend them productively into the real economy. Every extra dollar in the CIO is a sign of his failure to do that. And the $2 billion loss is really just a symptom of what happens when banks get too much money, and don’t really know what to do with it all.

Congress for New Urbanism seems unable to connect their mission with local railway links, with a US Post Office near the station platform.

We talked with some CNU people way back at their debut, just after the First Gulf War. They invited input from the public, and we offered railway discussion and technical sources, etc. Fine, said the man at the CNU booth at the California State Fair, send what you can...

20 years on, and there is not a single sign the CNU has any interest in promoting any sort of local (generic freight/passenger) rail links in their vision as offered in any locale. If Christopher C. Swan may happen to be a CNU member, then he is the exception that proves the rule...

Suntrain Transportation Inc. stands alone in the United States, with their visionary proposal named "The Retail Railway", a SYSTEMS approach to mobility and local, sustainable economic units. There is a companion book by Swan: "ELECTRIC WATER" (New Society Press,2007), with updated info on the webpage.

California is struggling to build their first segment of High Speed Rail, with a High Speed Rail Authority of 36 individuals who, by their own admission, are novices about railways... The rush to build the first segment is driven by Federal $$$, apparently about to evaporate if they don't spend it ASAP. Wow! This is happening in a state with more than a few rail bottlenecks (Tejon, Donner, Cuesta) and multiple dormant rail branch lines.

Cramped railway lines needing fixing are trumped by what is probably the last of the big boondoggles, and a Governor who should know better with his experience, lacks the nerve & skill to go to Washington to demand a prioritized, generic rail upgrade program.

CNU, do all member offices have access to the US Rail Map Atlas Volumes?

Another gem:

"Compared with the brainless religious zealotry and sexual hysteria of the right wing and the ruinous social services pandering of the left"

Re Gay reason this works is that the riff raff elements avoid them because of the reputation, so they improve and then gradually become hip. They are like a scab on a ghetto or barrio wound that gradually heals and falls away leaving a semblance of normalcy.

Look, let's face it, there is a hierarchy of desirability in America when it comes to demographics.
i.e. "Who would your rather live next to or what neighborhood would you not want to visit or break down in?"

The least desirable element in a neighborhood would be Haitian Blacks,
next more desirable would be American Blacks, then a Central American barrio,
then a Cuban barrio,
next would be an Asian neighborhood,
next would be a heavily homosexual area like the Castro in San Francisco,
next in desirability would be a poor White trash neighborhood,
finally a neighborhood with Middle Class Whites.

What about wealthy Whites with a smattering of a few Asians and others? Money is toxic and will destroy the spontaneous and interesting businesses although it lends itself to public safety and relaxation.

So then, it wasn't worth the carbon footprint.

Welcome to the Bataan Death March with your host, Richard Florida! Let's give him a big hand!

I always knew I that, well, let's just call it "building recycling", was one of them thar "Jobs of The Future". Finally, some validation. What I've learned is just how toxic our living spaces really are. It is now threatening the existence of our species. Personally, I think we need to abandon the cities immediately and build new, less toxic ones outside of them. A shot in the dark at best. The suggestion doesn't even touch on the logistics and financing of such an undertaking and we all know that's the important part.


A Pesky Undesirable

Also don't look for any secret meaning. Take each statement as its face value. Let it take you to the next one even if there is no logical connection. There may be an emotional one. Think of Tarzan swinging thru the trees - each sentence a vine. You must needs let go of one and take hold of the next - or get stuck mid air. Life is Now.

Thanks for that update from the field JHK. Finding Pindell's "Good Place to Live" in the mid-nineties led me to your "Geography of Nowhere" and that set up a whole new set of references and way of viewing the landscape. I've wondered what, if anything, affiliations like the CNU had been up to since.

I'm convinced much of the future of personal mobility will be on two wheels.

Gays and Artists fix up neighborhoods abandoned by terrified Whites. Some very beautiful. Next yuppies trying to be cool start coming in and buying up. The Artists and poor Gays are priced out. And so it goes.

I think most middle class people would rather live in a artsy neighborhood than a poor White one.

Ozone: The short answer is that the water supply is a vast underground lake called the Edwards Aquifer. It is fed by runoff from the hill country. The water utility in SA has been aggressively obtaining water rights from areas reaching far and wide for years. The implications of your question are not lost on those of us who shudder each time we see yet another half million square foot "development" sign appear. Meanwhile we continue to spend federal funds to construct ever more grand highway interchanges. In this state land owner rights generally prevail, so everything precious is being paved and .... you know the scenario. Currently there is a big dust up over individual water rights, to whit: If I own a few acres of land with a straw down into the aquifer then I ought to own the "rights" to that water. I am at a loss as yet to comprehend how the water under that small parcel which is part of a vast underground limestone aquifer can be quantified. And so it goes....


You are correct. Implicit in my "poorer White one"
would be all the civic infrastructure that JHK implies is good. The Poorer White one would be part of a process or a quantified thing better or worse than another--not an end goal.

Boston just bought a brand new train for the commuter rail. I was so excited. Oh wait, it's diesel. Nevermind.

You're wrong. There IS another group planning for the future. They are called permaculturists, and cover everything from how to produce food (obviously), housing, economics, health and community in a postpetroleum world.

I think you just defined free market capitalism with an example.

"There IS another group planning for the future. They are called permaculturists..."

Headline is "Unemployment benefits end this week for 93,000 in California"

I hope they hurry.

"I'm glad to read an entry of yours that has more praise than condemnation. I'm even more pleased to see that you're recognizing people who are actually doing something useful. While you have a real talent for calling people morons, it gets tedious reading month after month of it."

I don't get this, nor the other smattering of faithful detractors that can't seem to stay away. It gets tedious? Month after month? Why the heck do you keep coming back then? A little attached to condemnation yourself?

I saw a huge truck today, Coca Cola truck.
Emblazoned with 'Hybrid'...THIS TRUCK KEEPS YR AIR CLEANER.......

JoO, If ya want a depressing read go to yr Sister
SARAH MAID OF ALBION and finish reading this from a blogger there [I assume Sarahs in UK]..
Someone writes of their Grandad helping carve things for a church..its now a Mosque, I assume the Muslims are on every kind of Govt [and Church?] give away..............GODS HELP US [yes plural]: MINNESTOTA

Ellison's district used to be 70% white. American blacks and Somalis have over run the area. It is also the area with the most "motor voter fraud" in the state. Ellison was elected by same day registrants who were not to be found later on. But, as the Dems like to point out-- "no way to tell which votes are which!" which is why voter ID is on the ballot this fall. Mark Dayton was elected with over 17,000 such ballots on play. Franken got elected with some 13,000 ballots and still only won by a few hundred votes.

Even most Democrats that I know are sick and tired of the Somalis.
The area they have taken over used to be a Polish neighborhood that was very nice with an adjacent 1st tier white suburb.
The whites ran and even the churches closed.

Now those churches have been converted to mosques!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Voter fraud is rampant in this country. Wake up people, get involved in a voter rights campaign in your state.

See Angry White, the 'snarky' comment about Larry [?] BHO 'companion and Trainer'.

There are other tales online about R Emmanuel that are similar and some Lawsuit involving sexual harassment settled by BHOs Ivy League school, but the accusers were male! BHO was 'coming on' to the guys.

Have you been to Silicon Valley lately?
San Jose Mom can describe it, and its remodeled [ghastly] homes.
Yes Queers dont worry about schools and safety so the can gentrify even places as horrible as ELA/Silverlake.
Once they drive the poor out, other sub groups can move in.
But overall USA and its cities are in a downward spiral, due to immigration.
Someone here today said we are 319 million..yikes.
Also see my posts above this about Minnesota.

There is a bit of "new urbanist" activity in my area. The "El Camino Real" (means "king's road" in Spanisho--it's the path Junipero Serra used to invade California) in the cities of Mountain View, Sunnyvale, Santa Clara and San Jose has been designated for mixed use, apartments and store fronts--no new parking lots in front and they are making it more friendly for walkers--that's the good news. It would be nice if they could follow their own rules. But in San Jose, they just improved a new "big box" development (against San Jose's policy) near where I live. Politicians are damn hippocrites in this area.

I was a good citizen and took the train from San Jose to San Francisco on Friday night to see Roger Waters perform "The Wall" at AT&T Park. The concert was breathtaking, but the train ride was just OK. First of all, the train was too hot inside. I wished that the windows would open, but that was not possible. Secondly, they constantly blew the train horn, which rattled my nerves. Finally, I have NEVER seen so much graffiti in the course of 45 minutes. The only good news was that we didn't have to pay $30 to park our car in SF.


per Valad:"Sure by becoming coolies ourselves...."
Exactly. That is the Koch brothers plan: destroy the unions; eliminate regulation; and hold the serfs in penury. Check Gov. Walkers promise to a billionaire support to "divide and conquer" the unions. the problem is the serfs for the most part have drunk the KoolAid and agree only to wake up when it's too late. Jim is yammering on about living arrangements when the crucial question is who controls the country.

Time out for industrial progress? Time out for Ron Paul:

Left,right, right,left.
Someone emailed me this:

George Soros is once again putting his money where his mouth is.
The Left’s favorite Wall Street billionaire and a cohort of his radical confederates are promising to contribute as much as $100 million to help the Democratic Party win this November so it can lay the groundwork for the destruction of what’s left of American civil society.

News of the trust fund tidal wave comes after the Soros-funded Democracy Alliance opted to drown Democrats and President Obama’s re-election campaign in an ocean of cash this year.

The ultra-secretive group, founded in 2005, is a financial clearinghouse that recommends to its wealthy members projects and groups that aspire to dismantle America as we know it, transforming the nation into a European-style socialist state. The group has directed untold hundreds of millions of dollars to left-of-center causes.

Obama wants USA to be 'competitive' with China.
In order to do that, we must work 80? hour weeks, for 1$ an hour.

You are correct re: ghastly remodels in San Jose. My daughter recently asked...aren't architects supposed to have some notion about balance and context? There is a house about a 1/2 mile from ours that is twice as big as any other in the neighborhood and when you look at it you think...Did Home Depot have a big sale on columns?

There are other tales online about R Emmanuel that are similar and some Lawsuit involving sexual harassment settled by BHOs Ivy League school, but the accusers were male! BHO was 'coming on' to the guys.

Well, it took about six hours before Dumbo started displaying his stale fruit-of-the-brain jibberish before am otherwise excellent post by JKH.

Hey jism breath, nobody cares about your right-wing spam mail.

The funny/ironic thing about the JP Morgan loss was that a few months ago Mr Dimon was bad mouthing the head of the Bank of Canada over over the need for better bank regulations. Mr Carney wants tighter regulations, which would likely have prevented this latest debacle.

I can confirm that the end of suburbia is not yet upon us. I live in Issaquah, Washington, an old town by the Cascade mountain foothills that has recently undergone expansion by building new suburban neighborhoods. There are some elements of "dense living" compared to 1990's suburbia - e.g. town-homes built in proximity to each other and schools within walking distance of most residents. As I was practicing my tennis serve in one of their public courts last week, and later walking through the neighborhood, I was surprised to see an entire subdivision with roads and sidewalks already intact, waiting for developers to complete home building. They are also (regrettably) planning to build a new college campus te replace a wooded area. The neighborhood works well, assuming families have 2 cars each and can afford to shuttle their kids back and forth from one baseball practice to another. By the baseball park, I counted 20 SUVs lined up one next to another.

New England is full of intact, well built, attractive towns, surrounded by potentially productive farmland, waiting to be rediscovered, rebuilt and reoccupied. Many date back to the 18th and even 17th centuries. Westfield, Mass. and Windsor, VT immediately come to mind. There are many others. Say what you want about the Yankees who founded New England, they knew how to build a town.


" so vote for me - Pete Tagliani - you'll be glad you did ! "

Ogier. Valahad. Who else is a Knight of the Round Table? We shall fight the Orcs until they yield - or die.

Thanks for the primer of the environs.
Sounds like a state that's surely headed for water wars in the future.
I wonder if the "straws" sucking up that aquifer are getting longer and longer as population/users multiply? (I would suppose that's likely.)
And then there's this:

Perhaps the guv'ner could pray for a prolonged but degraded hurricane to breeze through.
(Of course we all know how accurate any predictions might be; especially about the weather in years to come.)

The Democratic Party is full of hacks. Why do you associate with such a disreputable organization? Nothing but poverty pimps, bureacrats, and crony capitalists.

-A Pesky Undesirable"

Head east, young man; we enjoy yer kind 'round hyar!
-An Unrepentant Curmudgeon

Yet one more reason to Oppse immigration to the USA,
This guy was a rich 'Refuge' from Brazil!

Facebook's Severin renounces US citizenship to lower taxes - Page ... › Social › Politics and News
13 posts - 5 authors - 2 days ago
Facebook's Severin renounces US citizenship to lower taxes Politics and News. ... Leave the position open for someone who isn't. ..... was a US citizen even while residing in Singapore prior to renouncing his citizenship ..................

Dunno if this is true.
Im fairly sure USA has had Gay presidents.

Obama’s tenure as the president of the Harvard Law Review in the late 1980s, at least two male student editors complained to colleagues and senior university officials about inappropriate behavior by Obama, ultimately leaving their positions at the journal, multiple sources confirm to THE KANSAS CITIAN.
The men complained of sexually suggestive behavior by Obama that made them angry and uncomfortable, the sources said, and they signed agreements with the university that gave them financial payouts to leave the journal. The agreements also included language that bars the men from talking about their departures.
In a series of comments over the past 10 days, Obama and his administration repeatedly declined to respond directly about whether he ever faced allegations of sexual harassment at the journal. They have also declined to address questions about specific reporting confirming that there were financial settlements in two cases in which men leveled complaints.
THE KANSAS CITIAN has confirmed the identities of the two male journal editors who complained about Obama but, for privacy concerns, is not publishing their names.

[Ooops..meant refugee and Oppose]

Like attracts Like, eh?

Go west, Juletta, go west! Oklahoma is a fine choice; you'll fit right in.

an scintilla of attraction

a scintilla

The rich control the world, yes?
But which set of rich is more controlling, right or left?

Listening to NPR.
A million empty units in Spain! Huge unemployment among the young. gee, sounds like USA.

Isn't it up to the "person" how they want to spell something? And if they want to be understood, they will do so phonetically.

Michigan Native did not spell phonetically... not even close. Nor was his misspelling deliberate. Ozone is the master on CFN of deliberate phonetic spelling and I enjoy it.

Likewise for Insufferable. The writing is just sloppy, lazy and inaccurate... not phonetic and not deliberate.

See my post about Minnesota.

It'll get around... ;o)

Could it be that those towns were built on a sustainable European model? Sure there were mind-boggling SCADS of natural resources just waiting to be exploited, but the basics of close-clustered town centers and surrounding farmland were probably the only concept of community structure there was at that time. (If something works, I'd guess you'd stick with it, no?)

Great Men are often full of contradictions.

I wish you hadn't said ^that^. You have just given Asoka a free pass for all time for all his contradictions and inconsistencies.

Ain't ya just a quiver with anticipation?

Glad you enjoy it. I do have to think about it, but since I'm such a sloooooow typist, there's time to try and get it "wrong", but hopefully, in an obvious mode.
So'jer on, so'jer on...

Time and nature will help take care of the accumulated suburban dreck on the ground. Humans are very skillful sorters of things and the disassembly of salvaged materials will be a big industry in a world taking a "time out" from industrial progress.

We don't have to wait for time and nature. We can make the changes ourselves. At least two dozen American cities have discussed or planned removals or teardowns of inner-city elevated expressways, and a few cities have already done so. We can alter the urban landscape, and many cities are doing so. The future is in our hands.

In the 1970s, Boston, New York City, and Portland, Oregon initiated expressway teardowns, each with a different replacement: Boston began replacing its elevated Central Artery with a system of tunnels, later known as the Big Dig; New York replaced its West Side Highway with a street-level boulevard; and Portland bulldozed its Harbor Drive to make way for a waterfront park.

Many cities are re-evaluating past highway policy that pushed elevated interstate highways through central cities, with consequent severe damage to housing, businesses, and neighborhoods.

The teardown movement is high on the agenda of the Congress for the New Urbanism (now headed by John Norquist). A former Mayor of Milwaukee, Norquist pioneered the twenty-first century expressway teardown in an effort to eliminate an unneeded eyesore and spur downtown economic development. Many teardown advocates have also promoted greater investment in mass transit and light rail. The future is in our hands.

Also don't look for any secret meaning.

No, Vlad, I think sometimes you just enjoy being inscrutable.

I didn't forget Q. Here's a link with a good discussion about Stanislaw Burzynski. About one quarter down the page is a post from a poster called "bleach". He outlines the deficiencies in the forms used to maintain protocol compliance in, I believe, a double blind drug trial. As a data manager for several small drug trials, that's the part I'm familiar with. Then I fell asleep on my keyboard. So that's where the cartoon ZZzzzz comes from.

...As Inspector Clouseau said after destroying what was termed a priceless Steinway: "Not anymore".

Have fun!

Q, your premise is in error. If you read carefully, you will notice that I have been completely consistent when it comes to my core values. I never contradict myself about principles. For example, I have never advocated the use of violence, I have never argued in favor of dropping nuclear bombs on civilian population centers, I have consistently argued for the need to reduce global population, etc.

But life is fluid. Things change. I don't believe in the hobgoblin of foolish consistency (Emerson).

To maintain a position and refuse to change, even when life presents you with new data, is foolish.

Careful Q.

Hey jism breath,

I've heard "Hey penis breath," I've heard "Hey pizza face," but I had never heard "Hey jism breath." That's a good one. I'll jot it down in my list of insults.

JHK said:

The New Urbanists still standing are the strongest and most nimble. They are also the ones most deeply engaged in the trenches of architectural education, and they are as certain to win the ideology battles still raging in that realm as they won the battle over suburban sprawl.

The New Urbanists are doing good work, but they need to be more sensitive to minorities and the poor. Only very few of the New Urbanist developments have been affordable to someone making the median income in the area being redesigned.

An objective observer of the last two decades of New Urbanist development in the USA would be left with the impression that the building of walkable, mixed use neighborhoods in the USA is only for the affluent.

Good post today Jim. I'll give you credit for your rare optimism, but I must admit in light of all that is happening lately I am surprised. I picture our changing urban landscape rather differently. I am inclosing the following links before the Black Helicoptors swoop down on these Indianappolis Journalist for exposing our wonderful government in action. You may have to watch it twice to believe what you have just seen and heard.

and this one also just in case you don't believe it.

How do you think the landscape is going to look after the American People are hit with Austerity measures after seeing this? I picture a landscape of burning cars, molotov cocktails,check points in the streets and Politicians that are heard from - but never seen, because they are in hiding. We will have multulated torsos being tossed in our streets when and if the Governments stop handing out the free money. I now know why you you call this a Cluster F*ck nation. Oh, and by the way, our largest Sanctuary State - California, is "shocked" to find out it's $16 Billion in the hole. I dare the next politition to tell me we have a Budget problem, bullshit, we have so much money we can afford to give it away. Well, I have to go now, I have to go to work in the morning so I can support the 1% that pays little or no taxes, the welfare dependent, and the Illegal Immigrants. I'll do this until the Government gives away my job too. As you can see, today I do not share your optimism. Please see the above links if you have not already - especially you Jim. Just when you think you seen it all....

JHK said:

Compared with the brainless religious zealotry and sexual hysteria of the right wing and the ruinous social services pandering of the left, the New Urbanists look like the only organized group of adults in the nation who have not completely lost their minds.

JHK, I think you are being a bit unfair here. Obama's approach toward urban reform is not identical to past administrations (Republican or Democratic).

Obama wants to link community design with social diversity and that has become a key component of the his administration’s place-conscious urban policy.

Obamas's new Office of Sustainable Housing and Communities will promote housing in the context of “environmentally sustainable and socially inclusive development patterns,” while the Choice Neighborhoods Initiative will create “functioning, sustainable mixed-income neighborhoods by linking housing improvements with appropriate services, schools, public assets, transportation and access to jobs” (U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, 2009).

Similarly, proposals such as the Promise Neighborhoods Initiative, as well as programs involving partnerships between the new Office of Urban Affairs, HUD and the Departments of Transportation and Energy are aimed at creating sustainable, mixed income and mixed use neighborhoods.

Obama's agenda suggests that the tired old "people versus place" dichotomy has been left behind, and that it is now possible for BIG GOVERNMENT to focus on strategies that weave together policies that aim to benefit people with those that improve places.

The "El Camino Real" (means "king's road" in Spanisho--it's the path Junipero Serra used to invade California)

My high school Spanish text book was titled El Camino Real which we were told meant The Royal Road.

Royal...King...close enough I guess.

I read where JP Morgan-Chase lost 2 billion, opps, and maybe another 2 as well, and we need cheap easy to obtain oil. I have a solution, the Finder the show on Fox where the guy finds things can be hired to find the billions lost by banks and cheap oil to keep my fast food joints. I do not want to think, use reason or logic, or work outside, or walk or bike. Because all that is Socialism!

...the reconstruction of traditional human habitat as the armature for enduring economies.

Hmmm, "traditional human habitat" ...

As a dweller in a small adobe hut, and given a large percentage of the world's population lives in earthen structures, I'm surprised you did not mention building material or size of the habitat as part of the solution.

While housing affordability can be improved by the use of cost-effective building materials or efficiencies that reduce energy costs or the
lessening of regulatory burdens, the most important approach to designing affordability in New Urbanism is the reduction of size—small lots and small housing units that not only contribute to walkable neighborhoods and good urbanism, but are more affordable by definition.

For example, very small apartments known as “micro-units” are now being marketed to small households “without too much stuff” as a way of maintaining affordability.

More directly tied to New Urbanism is the “Katrina Cottage”, a small, easily constructed housing unit that was designed to be a more permanent replacement to FEMA trailers along the Gulf Coast region of the USA.

New Urbanists are experimenting with units that are manufactured, modular, kit-based, or panelized in an effort to maintain affordability in a walkable neighborhood. These are usually smaller sized units, and affordable, though they not be considered "traditional human habitat" like an adobe hut is.

Q, your premise is in error. If you read carefully, you will notice that I have been completely consistent when it comes to my core values.

One of your core values is atheism yet you tell Prog you are praying for his wife's health. This is an inconsistency for the purpose of busting balls.

The housing bubble bust massacred the New Urbanists. Many of the firms had tied their fortunes to the production house builders and the commercial real estate developers doing large projects, often hundreds of acres, and when the market imploded around 2007 their work dried up.

JHK, it may be overly simplistic to blame the failure of New Urbanists on the housing bubble bust. Fact is, there is an inherent contradiction in what New Urbanists are trying to do.

If a New Urbanist neighborhood is walkable, well designed, and amenity-rich (i.e., well serviced by stores, transit, and schools), demand for such places will quickly escalate housing costs.

The problem is rooted in the fact that New Urbanism places high value on place and context, not on the individual home. Valued context means that the source of increasing housing cost is land cost, not unit cost, and thus increasing the cost efficiency of individual units may not necessarily have a significant effect on affordability.

In other words, putting a manufactured house on a lot, in a well-designed and highly desired place, will not make it affordable.

Further, basic land economics dictates that the way to achieve affordable housing through market mechanisms is if there is an oversupply. Housing developers, on the other hand, are not interested in oversupply -- they want supply to be limited in order to keep demand high.

Therefore, the solution of enticing developers to
saturate the market to the point that housing in walkable neighborhoods can be kept affordable is
an inherent problem.

Have you all noticed the ironic juxtaposition of the ad for Beazer Homes (giant landscaped McMansions) just to the right of JHK's blog essay.

Well, to tell the truth, I can't really fault's like me being very much against smoking yet I own 200 shares of Altria (MO). Why not? It pays an excellent dividend and if I didn't own it not one person would be prevented from smoking.

The ideals of the New Urbanists can only work if noise ordinances have teeth (and that's just not gonna happen). There's no way I'm living near neighbors who jack their stereos up to 11 and where boom cars pulsating with inanity crawl by every five minutes. I tried it and it 1) drove me crazy and 2) drove me to the suburbs.

The cost of solitude? Twice the rent, twice the space I need.

No angry screed on Jamie Dimon? I'm disappointed!
If ever there was a banking executive who deserved to be someone who deserved to be fought over as the latest addition to some body-building prison lifer's harem it is Jamie Dimon. Maybe next week huh?

Mr. Kunstler -
Every Monday I look forward to reading your blog posts. I have never left a comment anywhere on the internet ever before, but every Monday I think the same thing so it's time I appeal to you - PLEASE CONSIDER DOUBLE-SPACING YOUR BLOG POSTS. I have 20/20 vision and still struggle every time to read these. Please, the formatting is such an unnecessary difficulty. I say this because I care - Thank you.

There's no way I'm living near neighbors who jack their stereos up to 11 and where boom cars pulsating with inanity crawl by every five minutes.

Have you ever heard the saying "If it's too loud you're too old."?

someone who deserved to be fought over as the latest addition to some body-building prison lifer's harem

This is funny Poet. Great imagery.

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CCP runs China. What does the Communist Party think about urban walkable communities?

You have to admit, had JHK *NOT* taken those flights, they still would have flown, *REGARDLESS*. So enough with the footprint sh!t, *HORSE'S @$$3$*/./

I will not be reading any replies this week - hopefully the sock puppets/*6-fig-govt-stalkaz* showed enuff respect this week, to wait 18-24 hours before *TROLLING*. And as P2C also admonished (word?), they will not revive last week's *SOCK PUPPET BANTER*. If they want to continue arguing/flaming irrelevancy, *LAST WEEK'S POAST* is still active, and they can *play* there.

Hehehe, declension. That whuz almost as *gud* as "aughties"... No arguments here - the sprawl, with nothing but *concrete/asphalt jungles,* is definitely going to kill us all. Go into those city centers, and notice the 10'C differential in temperature - and then tell me how those *big city blues* are the answer...

JHK said:

Hopes were lofty in the early days that the US public would recognize the self-evident benefits of ditching suburban sprawl for walkable towns, but it didn't quite work out that way.

Yeah, the reason New Urbanist projects didn't
work out is that there are substantially more
affordable new housing options for middle and low-income homeowners than the New Urbanist developments within any given region.

Over half of new housing in the United States is estimated to be affordable to median income families (AMI), but for New Urbanist developments as a whole, only 14% can be considered affordable.

In addition, that 14% compares small units in New Urbanism only, and the percentage would be lower were all housing units included. **Studies have confirmed the relatively higher premium commanded for housing in New Urbanist developments. We ain't all yuppies... or even yuppie wannabees.

Tu, C. C., & Eppli, M. J. An empirical examination of traditional neighborhood development. Real Estate Economics, 29(3)

JHK said:

During the boom of the 90s and aughties, about 99.5 percent of the new real estate development was done by the conventional schlock sprawl-builders and the New Urbanists did much of the remaining .5 - which was enough to get their point across.

Actually, for New Urbanists to build affordable, diverse, well-serviced, walkable communities is going to require an even larger investment of monies from BIG GOVERNMENT. Although there is no exact count, possibly 10–15% of neighborhood-scale New Urbanist developments make use of some sort of government or quasi-government program in order to integrate affordable housing, including HOPE VI funding, Low Income Housing Tax Credits, Block Grants, state affordable housing funds, and TIF monies.

Jim, I'm sure you've heard of the U.N.'s Agenda 21? Please view this map of the U.S. to see how our Elites have already planned the future development of the countryside:

Perhaps there will be a few jobs available for your New Urbanists as ditch diggers? If you're interested in learning more about Agenda 21 see Rosa Koire's videos on the subject:

Unfortunately I will probably not be alive to see the new Utopia of America.

JHK said:

The Congress for the New Urbanism has been throwing this yearly fandango since its founding in 1993...

The Congress for the New Urbanism was a bit late to the party.

Many on CFN may not have read these books, but Whyte who wrote The Organization Man (1956) and Gordon who wrote The Split Level Trap (1960) Friedan who wrote The Feminine Mystique (1963) all criticized rapid urban expansion into suburbia for a variety of social, ecological and financial ills related to suburbia, years before The Congress for the New Urbanism came on the scene in the 90s.

BTW, since The Congress for the New Urbanism came into existence, many of the most vocal critics of suburbia have been elite architects and other cultural commentators (JHK included) criticizing middle class and lower-middle class taste; few have criticized elite suburbs for aesthetic reasons.

JHK said:

The timeless principles that the New Urbanists revived will be the common sense of whatever we build in the future

Asoka said: "few have criticized elite suburbs for aesthetic reasons."


Style is a way of doing things that can be characteristic of a particular group or period, a manner, such as a style of building or New Urbanist style; it can also connote fashion. Styles conform to rules. Thus, one expert may judge the physical qualities of a building according to the principles of one style, and another expert may use the principles of a different style.

Aesthetics is the study of value (worth or importance). One type of value is beauty or sensory pleasure. In urban design a set of core principles such as complexity, scale and enclosure provide something of a common expert language regarding aesthetics.

Many of the statements condemning specific suburban developments as aesthetically displeasing or poorly designed are really statements that the style is not to the taste of the critic. The actual design quality may be quite high according to underlying New Urbanist principles.

Whats great about it is how telling it tis.
Homophobic comment from a 'Liberal'.

Do tell me more, please.
They had some 'info sessions' for ordinary folks in the Bay Area?
Theres some things on Youtube, the responses?

Hey, Asoka, you say 30 years and mention, Whyte, Friedan, and Gordon. Try 60 years. Check out the chapter on Greendale by Peets (1937) in the book City Planning and Housing

Your grasp of history is not as good as you think, Asoka, though your belief in BIG GOVERNMENT is correct. Greendale, Wisconsin is proof.

Under FDR's Resettlement Administration, the Greendale Towns Program became one of the most significant housing endeavors of FDR's administration; some claim it was one of the most significant of all New Deal programs.

The walkable nature of Greendale's center remains strong today, in terms of both activity and community identity. While many circumstances are specific to this particular Wisconsin town, useful lessons can be drawn for those new urbanist communities being developed in greenfields and suburbs today, many of which are strikingly similar to Greendale.

Since you weren't around in the 30's, I thought I'd point it out to you. Greendale has withstood the test of time and conforms to New Urbanism design principles.

New Urbanism design and planning tenets, as laid out in the CNU's (1996) charter, include:
• compact, walkable neighborhoods with clearly defined edges;
• a clearly defined center with public space, public buildings, a transit
stop, and retail businesses;
• an interconnected street network, forming coherent blocks and lined
with building fronts rather than parking lots;
• a diverse mix of activities and housing options;
• civic spaces in prominent places; and
• open spaces in convenient locations throughout the neighborhoods.

All these design elements were and still are embedded in the original settlement and some of the subsequent development patterns of Greendale.

Planners of the 30s. They don't call 'em "the greatest generation" for nothin'.

Nope, Asoka, take it back even further, like to Ebenezer Howard's (1898) garden-city ideas transplanted from Britain to North America.

Oh, what's the use? You are history-challenged, Asoka.

Howard's design principles were simple:

"Keep your settlements compact. . . provide for open space; separate residential areas from industrial zones but not from commercial establishments; build housing that people ean afford and create a plan . . . that is flexible and responsive to people's needs."

Here's your attribution, Asoka:

Howard, E. 1898. Tomorrow, A Peaceful Path to Real Reform

Well at least they're alive. Some have said Obama's lovers disappeared. Not that I automatically believe that - there are some nutty conspiracy theories. On the other hand, some very bad things can happen to people who become inconvenient....

What do you think of John Travolta's apparent gay side?

Hey, Asoka, you know Hispanics are on the rise, but do you know about the New Urbanism experience in the City of Santa Ana?

New Urbanist design principles are supposed to promote mixed income residential neighborhoods and respect local culture.

But a study of two Mexican and working-class immigrant barrios and the adjacent downtown district, shows New Urbanism is perceived as 'redevelopment' (this in reference to the City of Santa Ana's Renaissance Plan).

Get this, Asoka: Local planning codes reflect and support cultural and class beliefs that alienate Latino barrios. And you wonder why Hispanics don't "assimilate"!

In the construction of a new science of form the disciplinary gaze of New Urbanism reshapes places upon cultural-alien and class-alien norms.

New Urbanism needs to take into account tensions between ethno-cultural-dominant city councils and ethno-cultural and economically marginalized neighborhoods in exploring how policy and discourse impact urban place.


We all have masculine and feminine energy.

Why is being gay still being thrown around as an insult?

Obama made someone "uncomfortable"?

Maybe. Maybe not. But Obama did not arm a posse, grab somebody, and forcibly hold him down and cut off his hair against his will (with six witnesses), and then conveniently not remember it happened.

No. Only people who have worked for what they have will appreciate it. Blacks trash the housing that they're given. Why waste the creative efforts on such undeserving people? As Prabhupad said, "Deserve and then desire."

Gays have often harassed me. They are growing in power and arrogance. And they will make the lives of enlisted men pure hell - as they have in the seminaries.

It must go back to being a private vice. And I don't believe in harrasing them as was once the practice.

Here we have no Eternal City. Read St Augustine. But we can try nontheless - to build a reflection of that City on High here on Earth.

ADL licks its chops over coming Internet takeover. CISPA means the end of the free internet.

There's a reason that priests call it a Semenary. Also you might notice that the priest lives in a "rectory". Coincidence? I think not.

Vlad said:
ADL licks its chops over coming Internet takeover. CISPA means the end of the free internet.

I find it amusing that Zionist Jews are reaching the pinnacles of power in the USA at precisely the time when the USA is well on its way to being a banana republic. It's kind of like being the last Roman emperor before the Vandals sacked Rome in 600 A.D. putting an end to the Empire for good after Alaric of Gaul put a big gash in it in 410 A.D.. A Pyrrhic Victory for that Emperor of the highest order.

I see such financial degradation in the middle class that even $30 monthly subscriptions to various stuff is asking too much. Soon, things like Comcast will be a LUXURY and you might even start seeing people backtrack to dial-up connections again. There's already a well-documented resurgence in cheap-o cellphone plans to bypass the typical $50-$100 monthly charges from the major providers such as Verizon.

"Scaling back" is already starting as a "snowball" but will grow into an avalanche in the coming years. These mega-corporations are past the "knee in the curve" of their power and have virtually nowhere to go but down. Google is an AD REVENUE company and margins for corporations have nowhere to go but down. Where corporate profit margins revert back to normal and then go even lower, advertising becomes the first "ballast" that they throw overboard.

Comcast's revenues have nowhere to go but down because of the surge in poverty level jobs as desperate "stopgaps" such as "home health care nursing" where desperate women earn $25K per year taking care of geezers and it's the ONLY thing they could avail themselves outside of becoming house cleaners.

Corporate profit margins hit an alltime high in 2011 and are going to march relentlessly lower starting THIS year. The corporations which will take the biggest hits will be the ones that offer either high-subscription-rate services (Verizon, Comcast) or the ones which subsist on ad revenues.

Any way you slice it, these giant Zionist mega-corporations are declaring victory just before their empires erode.


E- you raise a couple of good points there about verizon et al; but i ve a question: just what exactly is this 'zionist' you speak of, and how does that (obviously denigrating) term keep showing up? i mean, i know it has something to do with israel- wtftstf difference does a corporation's religion have to do with anything? seems to me somebody has missed the point about the fuck job we are all getting- it aint liike getting screwed out of our livelyhoods by protestants or catholics is any better! and those baptists...! i m not bitter; i m just sayin'...

I'm referring to the ethnic make-up of the CEOs and corporate boards of the Facebooks and Googles of the USA. You've got to read the links Vlad posted above to believe what you see about these mega-corporations being PRIMARILY concerned with hate speech that has to do with "Holocaust Denial and Anti-Semitism".

Well, we all know that "hate speech" encompasses a wide universe so why would any corporation push out public missives with mention of "Holocaust Denial"?? I think the question answers itself.


Hello James Howard Kunstler,

And thank you for the report from the front lines of "New Urbanism" in America. I very much appreciate your bringing last weekend's meeting to the attention of the Cluster Fucked Nation.

I had no idea that such a thing as a Congress for the New Urbanism (est. 1993) even existed. That they hold regular meetings is an even bigger surprise.

I was aware of such places as Seaside, FL, don't get me wrong. But I had simply assumed that these places existed according to American Free Market Capitalist Design Standards - serving only to offer a patina of urbanE sophistication - thus partially obscuring the gritty business of urban living, while extracting maximum revenue from "wanna be" sophisticates.

So, thanks for the education, JHK.

I assume you gave a speech, or had a booth, or something - at the CNU conference. So, I'm a little surprised that you didn't have a few more truly new posters comment Monday, on this week's work.

That's too bad. But I wouldn't take it personally. I'm sure they must be all over on a moderated CNU forum, telling each other how great they all are, and how they don't suffer from any confirmation bias at all.

"Most of all, though, I'm glad to be home in my quiet backwater of this poor floundering nation."

I'm with you, man! I can say those words verbatim, every time I get back home to my own "quiet backwater."

So, thanks for the week's work, JHK.
And thanks for the week's comment's section.
Even though it is already suffering from an early, and probably terminal, onset of asoka.infestation.

The "hate speach" that needs to be confronted these days is coming from the Left and their anti-white language of genocide.

Mr. Kunstler please talk to your people about ending the genocidal politics of the Left (never mind the clown Right and their Randian fantasies).

Then Jim you can have your nice post industrial town in the burned over areas of NY surrounded by other unitarians an nice christian folk (WMBH)

Addendum for FoxTrot:

The CEOs of Facebook, Google, Time-Warner, and Comcast all "happen" to be Jewish guys. Thus, it's totally outlandish that their main concern with "hate speech" is in stuff like "Holocaust Denial".

You won't hear them decrying the use of the term "Honky". :-)


Steady there, E.

You make some interesting points.

But let's all remember that this comment thread is sponsored by a tough-minded Jewish man, who demonstrates weekly that HE's not all that thrilled with the direction the US is going, either.

I quite agree with you Newworld. The REAL "hate speech" is the unrelenting babble from the minorities of the "oppressed Left" whose welfare checks and "extra child tax credits" for kids living in Mexico are largely off the backs of the revenues created by white taxpayers.

I'm sick to death of it and won't put up with one second of the bullshit spewed by this board's REAL haters like BeantownBill, his butt-buddy Mika, and Asoka. I'm with Vlad that it's time to "circle the wagons" and just kick their asses.

However, the Left has turned the white liberal Left into a bunch of cowering, craven self-loathers.


True, JHK is a tough-minded Jewish man but he's got some holes in his rhetorical game, most notably his past posts expressing pro-Israeli themes but also his flying hither, thither, and yon to talk about Peak Oil.

I'm sorry but he's flying all over the place and confesses that HIS message is often getting drowned at conferences by pollyannas. Well, if that's so, why just stay at home and write books and mag articles?

As I said before: Flying every two weeks to talk about Peak Oil is like promiscuous fucking to support the cause of virginity.



JHK has been around a long time and is one of the original founders of the internet as a revolutionary force for national self improvement.

Someone's going to sit in that seat and fly, it might as well be him.

Regarding the composition of corporate boards of directors, Google this site:

"They Rule, corporate boards"

sorry, but i still think that as long as we focus on what religion or tribe the fuckerers belong to divides us and allows them to continue...i mean, if you take things on an individual, case-by-case basis, then you see that there are good and bad people of every stripe- no one segment of humans is 100% good OR bad, so judging by color or god does not give an accurate ll either be giving someone a pass one shouldn t; or condemning wrongly- which fucks up any chance of fixing the underlying problem, which basically a power struggle between the few powerful and the rest of us...all of us...

Again, E, you're going through the same processes that I have gone through - leaving a long and exposed career in public service - and you don't realize until you retire out - - -

You pull your head up and look around after 30 years of that and take an unblinking look around at what Political Correctness (for lack of a better term) has done/is doing to the United States - - - - and it's not pretty.

Just take it easy on the rhetoric, my advice.

I don't know why I care, though.
Asoka. will soon come sailing through to label you and me Racist White Atomic Bomb Droppers.

Bill will defend his crazy racist friend "to the death," again.

Buck will reveal more of his conflicted gender issues and homophobia in his choice of insults.


Confirmation bias - front and center.

First thing I do when I strike it rich is hire a copy editor.

We despised "white males" are getting closer to our Field of Blackbirds moment, and this will be thru the entire West.

If "racism" is the world's greatest evil according to everybody who matters and only whites are guilty of "racism" then it stands as fact that we are being singled out for harm because of our RACE. This is a violation of the 1948 UN Convention on Genocide.

The Left's entire charade of moral superiority has just vanished, completely.

I don't get this, nor the other smattering of faithful detractors that can't seem to stay away. It gets tedious? Month after month? Why the heck do you keep coming back then? A little attached to condemnation yourself?
I do enjoy reading Jim calling people idiots and worse. He's better at it than almost anyone else online, and there are lot of great flamers and dyspeptic bloggers out there. It's just that seeing month after month of him throwing rotten tomatoes at the problems without his proposing solutions or mentioning people who are gets, well, tedious wasn't the best word choice; monotonous would have served better. The game then becomes guessing who will Jim insult this week and how will he do it? Will he go for the usual suspects with the standard attacks or will he surprise his readers by shooting at a new target using different ammunition? It's fun, but I appreciate the change of pace when he writes a column like today's. At least he's recognizing someone who is doing something right!

As for going somewhere else, what other site has so many people interested in this subject? Joe Bagaent is dead, The Archdruid doesn't get this same kind of involved crowd, Elaine Meinel Supkis has succumbed to anti-Semitism, Stuart Saniford is too technical, and The HipCrime Vocab has just barely started to find a readership. This is where the action is.

As far as this week's topic, to answer that directly I would say that new or old anything urbanism is a waste. Why. Simply put, in this day and age the black racists need but a spark for their gasoline, and poof there goes the gentrified gayed up neighborhood.

In a historical context this is not new. Since I am a cracker I can testify that when you come from a violent shit culture as was Northern England and the border area it ain't worth building any palace, because it will just get burnt down.

Anyway since you anti-whites won't listen to me then go look up what the DC papers have been writing about the black run Metra. That bit of writing is just the first shot across the bow of people who know that stupid white crackers or timid mid management Dittoheads are not going to destroy the urban experience.

Nice clarification of your first post, NV.
You didn't strike me as a Pollyanna.
Not that a couple of those types can really hurt on a site like this - as long as they don't become Resident Impediments, anyhow.

And thanks for this list, NV:

"...what other site has so many people interested in this subject? Joe Bagaent is dead, The Archdruid doesn't get this same kind of involved crowd, Elaine Meinel Supkis has succumbed to anti-Semitism, Stuart Saniford is too technical, and The HipCrime Vocab..."

I'll look into some of those.

For clarification, I will point out that Elaine Supkis describes herself as Jewish, or half-Jewish.

And is it really true, as BeanTown Bill implies, that any criticism of any Jewish person, or any criticism of Israel - marks one as a vile antisemite and unworthy of further consideration??

I'm just asking. Seriously.
ArchDruid has a good post this week, BTW.
He addresses what he considers the unlikely nature of an "organized conspiracy" to explain present events.

I hope he's right.

At a party long ago someone who had worked for Debbie Reynolds for 9[?} years said, 'I know 200 name male actors, but none of them are straight' and thought that Travolta and Stallone had been an item!
What is this, the Enquirer?

Elaine Supkis says she was 'married to someone Jewish and they divorced'. You can ask her.

Even the young billionaire I mentioned y'day is Jewish!!!
[Saverin is one of four co-founders of Facebook, along with Mark Zuckerberg, Dustin Moskovitz]

Gee do ya see a pattern, and the 7? major film studios all have Tribe Ceos,yes? No?

I am involved a in small group of citizens living in the small suburb in Western PA who have been pressing the local government to be smart with zoning, but unfortunately, they have been a bit too stupid and it has cost them. What it cost was Walmart buying a cheap piece of 15 acres in the center of town. But, this small group has kept them from building thus far. It has been 3 years. Walmart maybe deciding to bag the idea of a superstore in town.

Now, convincing the local nitwit officials to buy the land before it is too late, and to change the zoning before it can be sold to another developer, if the community fails to buy it, is the challenge.

Buying it for a town center, which the community lacks, is what was the vision 12 years ago but forgotten as a result of apathy. Now the chance is back and trying to convince them to move on this zoning change and purchase is the new challenge.

In extreme times, the moderate man is the extremist. Get it? The standard of valuation has changed.

Moderation in all things? Even good things? Yes, like water. How bout virtue? How bout Truth? Moderation there too? Rhetoric? What the hell does that mean? It used to mean the art of communication and debate. Or are you implying that E is using his skills in an unethical way? Then say so.

Mr Kunstler isn't going to criticize the Jews. They never do - or just one in a million like Norman Finkelstien.

Do you think the Founding Fathers were wrong in rebelling? Do you think they should have been moderate? And that human life, even in chains, trumps all other values?

Yes, the pattern: they focus on communication above all. They want to control the stories that echo in our heads. Then they can active them at will during "elections".

Facebook is the new danger. The Corporations want the right to look at people's walls.

Interesting take on the scrappy New Urbanist movement, Jim!

If you folks enjoy comedic ramblings about urban form, the you should follow @Squirrelchat on twitter

Maybe I'm in a bad mood today, but to all the guys who post negative and stupid posts about Jews: fuck off! You are all of very low intelligence, not fit to be in modern society. First, there is no "God"; you have to be either deluded or dumb to think so. Therefore it makes no difference what religion someone is - it's ultimately irrelevant. Second, if Jews are a 2% minority and have become CEOs of many big companies, including the head of movie studios, what does that say about you guys who let it happen - "you guys" being the anti-semetic, do-nothing-but-complain posters here on CFN? Jealous?

To Procon: Enough with your boring, sarcastic, repetitive "to-the-death" postings. Get the fuck over it. I don't want to see any more of it from you. Grow the fuck up! You are a nasty insinuator. You say I "imply" that anyone criticizing any Jewish person makes him a vile anti-semite. Stating that what someone said is "implying" anything, is a sneaky way to not say what's really on your mind. Show me the post where I stated that. And start writing something relevant to the blog; you haven't done that regularly for a long time.

Anti-Soak: Stop with the causual, throw-away anti-semitism already.

Eleuthero: Last week you stated you only post every few months, yet a simple search yielded the fact that you posted 11 times the prior 2 weeks (lest you think I have nothing better to do, it only took me all of 1 minute). Wtf? Too bad you don't have the balls to reply to my question of why you continue to post here if you think this blog is so cretin-like. Doofus, dumb shit.

Sorry Stranger, Ill say what I please!

'Anti-Soak: Stop with the causual, throw-away anti-semitism already'

At least you are rational and have a sense of perspective. That's all I need to make my day. Thanks.


Some interesting comments.
Maybe this will surprise you - but I have never heard of the Congress for the New Urbanism. As far as I know, neither have any of my friends of acquaintances. This leads to the first conclusion:

(1) If these New Urbanists actually want to change anything, they will need to start with education. Not with building things. Right now the group is eclectic and largely unknown.

As far as America goes, the root cause of the problem is simple. If you want to change the social structure and ideology, you need to do the same thing as any detective who solves crimes. The gumshoe will tell you ... "Follow the money trail". Same goes here. There can't possibly be any deep-rooted alteration of the consciousness of America, until the whole money trail gets uprooted and re-paved. THAT is not going to happen until energy prices soar, transportation costs soar, living costs soar, and many people are unemployed. We are still not there yet. We are still in the early stages of collapse, with vast amounts of fingerpointing going on. Unfortunately Jim ... nobody is trying to LOOK AHEAD. People are just trying to cling to higher ground, and get back to the good old days.

Finally ... on a positive note.
I think you may have actually found a legitimate use for the Occupy movement. Give them some picks and shovels, and tell them to start tearing down all the abandoned houses and shopping malls. It's time for them to re-plant grass, trees, and crops. That would be a positive move. And it has a certain "organic anarchy" theme to it.

good luck,
Pete in California

One good thing: the show "Good Christian Bitches" was cancelled after a vigorous email and call and threaten to boycott campaign to the sponsors. This is the way - use the techniques the Jews used against them.

Which post where you say this? How about this one? And you don't imply it, you shout it.

shoot, caint help it...i was taught in science class that dna is dna is dna...which means in a way that all life is related, and that any differences are nothing more than perceived i figure it makes more sense to judge by actions on an individual basis- i don t like dogs, for example, i like a few good dogs i ve met...same with any other life-form...whether a blanket acceptance or rejection, you limit yourself to that paradigm, without a true sense of what you are getting- or not...i mean, ask an avowed racist if he likes peanut butter...and then if he knows a black scientist invented it...? hope that makes my point, flad- it aint the vessel; it is the content that matters: a racist piece of shit is still a turd if he s white or black

Peanut butter invented by a Black? Was it the reverse oreo Jimma Carter or the Blue Eyed Eli Whitney?

Why don't we let 14 year olds drive if they're tall enough? Some could handle it. And many adults cannot. So? It's a generalization, Charlie. Such generalizations (also known as thoughts or judgements) are neceassary for society.

So if you are for the contents and not the container, I trust you are against Affirmative Action. No? WTF!? I thought you were serious for a minute.

Don't forget porch monkey and yard ape. Unjustly forgotten.

What do you think? Foreign Banks now refusing American Customers - they don't want to deal with the red tape the United States now demands.’s-the-rules-that-are-a-pain.html

NW said:
If "racism" is the world's greatest evil according to everybody who matters and only whites are guilty of "racism" then it stands as fact that we are being singled out for harm because of our RACE. This is a violation of the 1948 UN Convention on Genocide.

This is very succinctly and very well said. The Left's de facto definition of "racism" is "bad things whites say about non-whites" whereas everyone else's racism is "tribal/ethnic pride".

And it's absurdly anti-survival for all of world civilization since us dreadful Caucasians have invented about 95% of the world's electronic and infrastructural amenities and scientific breakthroughs. The list of Nobel Laureates in Physics is a veritable "Honky Festival" with only a few Asians dotting that particular landscape.

The large "Political Correctness Police" contingent on here cannot see that they use a different lens to see Honky than their own tribe. Mika has threatened about five people with physical damage herein. Does anyone think that BeanTownBill would have anything to do with this guy if he wasn't Jewish? Not a freaking chance!!!!!


Bill said:
Maybe I'm in a bad mood today, but to all the guys who post negative and stupid posts about Jews: fuck off! You are all of very low intelligence, not fit to be in modern society.

No, you dumb Kike, it's YOU who set this off by applying a different set of behavioral standards to all BUT Jewish CFN members. There isn't a chance in a million that you'd buddy up with a psycho like Mika The Hun if he wasn't a Jew.

You're a far, far bigger racist than I'll EVER be because if a Caucasian were as vulgar and violent as Mika I wouldn't care if he was a Caucasian. I'd view him as an enemy of civilization which puts my level of rationality far above yours.

As for "intelligence", you can't hold a candle to my native intelligence and you've always come across as a cookie-cutter, standard, garden variety liberal mushmouth. There's not even anything particularly distinct about you or your observations.


Don't forget porch monkey and yard ape. Unjustly forgotten.

What do you think? Foreign Banks now refusing American Customers

I can't think of two, more tepid, insults than porch monkey and yard ape... unless maybe, "your grandmother wears paratrooper boots."

About the foreign bank thing, I don't know enough about it to comment. It DOES bother me, however, that this is another sign of BIG GOVERNMENT run amuk.

Wow, Bill - Bluster much??

"Show me the post where I stated that."

OK, since you asked so nicely, I will, Bill.

"Mika is angry and I don't blame him. I don't agree with everything he says. I don't always appreciate his vociferousness, but I will defend him to the death, for he is a member of my tribe, a tribe that is constantly being put down. The basic reason behind his anger - well, I agree with it."
-BeanTownBill, February 17, 2012 11:14 PM

Now, would you care to retract anything?
Otherwise, Bluster On, Bill

To the Death
To the Death
To the Death, Death, Death
(William Tell Overture)

Hey OZ;

I'm thinking of taking a ride up your way soon (if the rain ever stops, and if the Royal Enfield will go that far)

If you've needed an extra set of hands for any unfinished projects around the compound nows your chance. I've picked up some skills working around this place that could be put to use.

The time of the last frost has passed and this weekend its time to put in the tomatoes, lettuce, cukes, squash and eggplant. I've spent the past week or so preparing the beds. With all this rain we've had its as green as can be round here.


All of northwest and west central Ohio used to be connected by the little inter-urban railways which fell out of viability after the invention of the automobile. The State of Ohio, through both the tenure of Taft and Strickland, tends to pay attention only to the largest cities, where the votes are clustered.

The rest of us are reliant on the automobile since the villages are dying. I have no idea what the government is going to do with those of us not living in major population centers. FEMA camps, anyone?

I should. We're from there, originally. I assume you meant that as a slam, but I'm proud of my home state and would rather be there than in some rotting shit hole surrounded by a bunch of libs who can't do anything useful. Cheers!

jackass...if you re going to ask me a question about how i feel; at least give me the respect and courtesy of letting me answer before you go putting answers and ideologies in my it happens, i don t agree with what AA has become; i do understand why it was implemented, and further understand that a great many people thought it was the least that could be attempted to ameliorate conditions that were after all thrust upon so many of our (see that, flad? OUR) population...if this is all too nuanced for you, go piss up a rope- i ll not be put in a convenient box with ANY label on future, i, and i m sure many others here, would appreciate it if you would confine yourself to actual questions of policy rather than thinly veiled traps and insults, which are nothing more than a weak attempt at jibery and false discussion...whoop, gotta go- im gonna make love to my girl now; dialogue with you makes me feel positively(and boy do i wish i knew how to use itallics here) dirty...naughty, i think i need a spankin'...! Cheers, clusterrfuckers, keep the powder dry, yer wick wet, and K-DAWG FOR PRESIDENT!!!

So, what are you doin'?
Don't wait for others to supply roadmaps to what you feel is "the right thing to do".
The world has plenty enough vacant-eyed followers.
Do what you think needs doin' while there might yet be a chance (and some wherewithal) to do it. Right?

-Aunt Assie, advice columnist to the Stars

Me too. (The looking into.)

Vlad, I just don't see any point in using insulting language carelessly. It often makes the "insulter" look coarse or bereft of ideas, thus giving the "insulted," an advantage to the opinion of the casual or unthinking reader.

Moderation in truth - NO!

Moderation in virtue - maybe.
Who defines virtue. You define it, for example, as a thighs closed female virginity pledge. Your Catholic Church was known to burn "witches" for lack of the right sorts of "virtue."

I prefer "freedom" to "virtue," if one must trump the other.

Were the Founding Fathers wrong in rebelling?
Maybe, Vlad, maybe they were, in retrospect.

If the "US" and Canada were still part of the United Kingdom, there would have been no American Civil War. And WWI/WWII would have likely played out differently, therefore no Hitler.

"Mr Kunstler isn't going to criticize the Jews. They never do" -vk-

Don't speak for JHK, vlad.
And "They," is hyperbolic overreach on your part, Vlad.

Thus far, on CFN, we do have a couple of outspoken Jews who do make it appear that even mild outside criticims might be considered antisemitic by some.

Which would go along with the sterotypical idea that only another Jew can criticize a Jew, and never in public.

Of course there's a big problem with sampling error when we overgeneralize from Bill/Mika/and maybe Buck - to your statement that "They" all act this way.

That's also part of what I mean, by inappropriate use of rhetoric.

Black writer Thomas Sowell admits that Blacks are waging a Race War against Whites - and that the Media and Police are covering it up.

Aaaaaaahhh...! you know, maybe if more love was made by more people, there would be less hate...i always feel better about everything for a while afterward
hey, nation, i got an idea about planned communities: what about turning over all these foreclosed & abandoned properties in all our cities to homeless in return for the fix-up? sort of an urban homestead program...the banks got fat rich off our bailouts; why not pay it back directly to our communities?! i know there are millions of people with families living day to day on the streets & in shelters who have no other chance to own a home, and would be glad to trade some sweat for stability...might go a long way towards rebuilding our country in the right direction, eh?

Ah, so I AM an accurate judge of cultural conformity. My comment that you'd "fit right in" seems eerily pointed, now doesn't it?
Get thee to thine own shithole and be cosseted and familiar!
(Yes, I know Oklahoma; get there with all possible haste. Stop wasting time and effort to change your current locale to Okie "standards".)

I can speak as I do because I have more experience than you. Talk to more Jews and you will see that what I say is correct. As for the rest - the counsels of defeat.

Your kind was there men first tried to ride horses. You told us to get off before we broke our necks. You were there when Orville and Wright tried to fly - mocking them with the rest of the mob. You called Bell and Edison cranks. YOu were there when fish first tried to come onto the land. You mocked us as "oxygen sniffers".

You are partially correct about the American Revolution, but for the wrong reason. The essential victory was against the Indians thus claiming America for the West and the White Man. But your peace at any price would have made that impossible too.



This is a bit off your point, but I have changed the way I donate my time in the past year. I used to work at Sacred Heart Community Services-- they have a "clothing store" area where families can pick out clothes and shoes for free. I was trained to them to give same respect a shopper at Nordstrom would expect. I haven't gone back in 2012 because I just didn't like the vibe of the "customers" which is greedy and grabby. I couldn't help myself on occasion giving "the evil eye" to Latino women who were too demanding.

I also quit working at a non-profit. The place was over-staffed and well paid. I used to go in once a week to do whatever they asked--even data entry and stuffing envelopes. What annoyed me is that I would come in to work at 9:00 a.m. and the doors were locked. Some of the paid workers didn't manage to show up until 11:00. So I asked myself.....Are they too full of themselves to come on in at a reasonable hour to stuff envelopes? The final straw was one day when Julie, the volunteer supervisor was determining what I should do by using HER TAROT CARDS. Ugh...this woman's IQ was about 30 points below mine--she obviously had a hard time making decisions. I then said, "I'm in the mood to work on the database and there seems to be plenty to do." She said, "No, it's not a good database day." I left.

So this year my efforts are limited to WASPy things. The art committee at the high school -- where all committee members are blonde, ha, ha.

I am also arranging flowers for the alter at church. I'm good at it, people appreciate it and it adds to the richness of the service. Also, I cook for the benefit of others -- desserts for memorial services, dinners for sick people, etc.

Give a cheer for Nordic women!


Has anyone else had weird experiences volunteering for non-profits?

Holler us up; still gots the number?
No totin' or liftin' required. A nice day out will do (and will give me a short excuse to lay off totin' and liftin' myself ;o).

Happy to hear of all the good progress. Our tomatoes went outside about the 4th under the patented tomato tent, and boy, they look happy (so far). Flowers and vigorous growth.

Cabbages, spinach and peas, of course, are really enjoying the cool and rainy.

Asparagus being greedily munched as it's in its' 3rd year and producing well.

Anyhoo, ride on, ride on, ride on!

I b'lieve it's "amok", but my memory ain't all that.
("That" should probably be italicized, but I lost that link you had provided about all those widgets and niceties.)

I was asking you to think not feel. Can you even tell the difference? I challenged the logic of Affirmative Action - because you did. But you don't like that because as a card carrying liberal you have to be for Affirmative Action.

Grow up little clown.

Correct. Amok is a condition that the Malay People are subject to in which they run around slashing and killing. Basically, anger is forbidden in this culture. So it builds up and can only be expressing in an "altered state of consciousness". The Ancient Greeks sometimes did things like this too. It was a legal defence that one had be taken over by the gods.

Sorry for the juxtaposition of the "ah's" there, but I hadn't yet seen your posting.

As to what you propose: it would be far to practical and easy to implement (and non-profit-generating) to be considered... so it won't be. Behaviors that SHOULD be rewarded countervail those that are NOW rewarded (i.e. thieving and lying), so that course will be resisted by those currently driving and riding on the gravy train that dubs the psychopaths kings and queens of the universe (known and unknown).

No worries though; we'll just have to see what's left when the Great Crumbling and Convulsion have run out their string. If we should make it through, perhaps a new approach can be considered. And if we should not, well, no worries there either...

Eleuthero, as the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire are the foundation on which Western Civilization stands, their history deserves respect. In part, respect means getting right the place names and the dates of the Germanic invasions: Alaric came out of the Balkans, not Gaul; the Vandals sacked Rome not in 600 A.D. but in the mid fifth century. If the history of any one civilization matters, it's the history of Ancient Rome.

I'm sure I'm not sure of anyone else's response if you mean pertaining to Agenda 21. I suppose most people sweep uncomfortable information under the rug of their mind. It's less cluttered that way. More room for porn.

"Julie, the volunteer supervisor was determining what I should do by using HER TAROT CARDS."

No offense, but I think I could've guessed this happened in California even if you weren't SAN JOSE Mom. I lived there among the fruits and nuts for 2 whole years, finally fleeing to the sanctuary of sanity in my long lost Midwest home--even before I came down off the Mendocino County buzz.

Yes,its borne out by the stats.
I dont need to goto 'Color of Crime' .
How about this:

'Illegal immigrant students and members of the House sued the Senate this week to try to overturn the upper chamber’s filibuster rule, arguing that the 60-vote supermajority requirement violates the Constitution and is blocking important legislation such as legalization for illegal immigrants...' WASH TIMES

NOW F'IN WETBACKS, CRIMINALS ARE TELLING US WHAT TO DO.WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And at the bottom of the link is an ad for Docs w/o Borders, of a white helping a black.

What is 21? Please inform me. THX!

anti soak, please take a look at the links that I have included in my post above. And, please don't be shy about sharing those links with everyone you know. I do believe we need to re-think Urbanization and move to sustainable communities. But, decent Leadership capability in the United States is in such a state of decline that I fear we will find ourselves in a state of anarchy long before we find ourselves with re-newed communities.

Hi, SJ Mom!!! I've seen Latinos and Chinese infiltrate the senior housing market in Palo Alto and, ouila (!!), in a handful of years the assisted public housing venues are full of Hispanics and Asians. Gee, what a surprise [sic].

Vlad Krandz actually has an ACCURATE view of self-loathing liberal whites literally ceding the entire country to third worlders who have little respect for any traditions or customs of our eurocentric population or its past.

That's why San Jose is the LARGEST CITY IN THE WORLD NOT TO HAVE A SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA. It has "light" operas and symphonies but not a REAL symphony. Why? Because the Indians and Asians who've bought up most of the property have no desire to maintain our culture and its offshoots.

I'm sure you got the "evil eye", being a "Honky", far more than you gave it.


Hey Jimmy, would you meet with a Southern REDNECK IF I SOUGHT AN AUDIENCE WITH YOU?
My buddy who's Dad almost got Dewey elected, needs to return to his roots. And I have always found the North a most Beautiful Place
P.S. H.S.Thompson threw me out...

Bronson's "Death Wish 2" just came on. Even the 70's porn style soundtrack is filling me with joy. I love all of you.

the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire are the foundation on which Western Civilization stands

Jam47, you are partially correct. Western civilization does not rest solely upon Rome. It has four influences:

Jerusalem, Rome, Athens, and Alexandria.

We are not taught about all of them. Our schools develop the mind by teaching a part, but not all, of western culture.

The following is an outline of a skeletal structure of components of western culture:

(1) Palestinian component "Jerusalem"
Faith in a personal God, revelation, righteousness, and covenant community

(2) Greek component "Athens"
Faith in reason, faith in living up to ideals, faith in human worth, faith in skeptical reason

(3) Roman component "Rome"
Cooperation, pragmatism, universalism

What is missing is:

(4) the Mystical Model, the African/Egyptian Component, "Alexandria."

The mystical model has as tenets Supreme Identity, Universe as Great Chain of Being, and the Doctrine of Adequatio.

Gnosticism, the Hermetic tradition, Neo-Platonism -- "the underground reality tradition in the west" – represents this strand of western culture and it surfaces periodically in the early Renaissance, Rhineland mysticism, Quietism, the Kabbalah, Hassidism, Sufism, Theosophy, the "Perennial Philosophy," and Transpersonal Psychology.

These ideas and intellectual movements, in harmony with eastern nondualist approaches, are downplayed and not presented to today’s students in the West.

Africa gets no credit for its contributions to Western civilization. Blacks get no credit. Egypt is not even thought to be part of Africa by many westerners, and the mystical model contributions are largely missing from our history books and our psyches.

I heard that there is tremendous competition for the management postion among the idle rich - even for the unpaid postions. A big ego thing. True?

North Africa was controlled by Whites - who tried to keep the Blacks in their own area. Egypt was White, or at least Caucasian, during its Classical period. I admit it began to become mixed in its decline - but that's after it had made its own unique contribution to Western Culture via the Greeks. Later Egyptian History was Greek, Roman, and then of course, Islamic.





Yes it's how the cookie planet crumbles. We need a million Bronsons.

Chuck just rented a flea bag motel room for 50 a month. I'm going rent at the same motel for the same price when I come to L.A.

tuesday Werlds went well...

Vlad, the historical record indicates Blacks were the originators of Egyptian civilization. The original Egyptians were of African or Black (Negroid) descent, and this is still mostly true of the bulk of Egypt's rural population, especially in the south.

Long before the Arabs invaded and conquered Egypt the famous and ancient Greek historian Herodotus (who, as you know Vlad, is known as the Father of History) visited Egypt and wrote concerning the Egyptians:

"They have burnt skin, flat noses, thick lips, and wooly hair" (Herodotus, Book II, p. 100, translated by George Rawlinson, New York: Tudor, 1928).

Do you have a credible historical primary source which says otherwise?

Yashua was CHEROKEE

Tomorrow they show Death Wish 3. I had no idea that a third one had been made. Perhaps he becomes a pacifist in this one? A fairy? A faggot? Then he'd get all the girls.

I thought race didn't matter. That's what you always tell us...

I disagree of course. As do you obviously. And I believe Herodotus was talking about the Ethiopians there. I admit that Egypt was in contact with several Black groups to the South - Nubia especially. Nubians actually tried to copy Egypt and built a few small wretched Pyramids.

You cannot provide any credible source to support your position that Whites were the creators of great civilization.

Race doesn't matter in my mind, in the sense that I believe all races have created great civilizations.

Race does matter in your mind, because you deny Blacks ever created great civilization, even before the Aryans, the barbaric and illiterate Caucasians invaded, murdered, destroyed, enslaved, etc.

Further, in your own words: "North Africa was controlled by Whites - who tried to keep the Blacks in their own area" but you cannot provide documentary evidence denying the greatness of Black civilization. You don't even believe Blacks are capable of such a feat.

That is where we differ. I believe all races are capable and have created great civilizations. You admit whites and Asians, but single out Blacks and deny their greatness. You are a racist because of that exclusion without evidence.

I do not deny any race its ability for greatness. I salute whites and Asians and Blacks for their achievements, and I criticize whites and Asians and Blacks for their acts of barbarity. Pointing out only whites have taken it to the extreme of nuclear barbarity does not make me a racist.

You cannot provide any credible source to support your position that Whites were the SOLE creators of great civilization.

Adequatio intellectus et rei

the intellect (of the knower) must be adequate to the thing (known)

Speaking of civilization and not of race, does anyone want to discuss new urbanism, the subject this week? I have raised many issues in many posts, only to have my contribution called "asoka infestation" by one of our resident racists.

So what about urbanization in general (assuming urban civilization is a means of inhabiting space)?

Which is more responsible for urban civilization: guns or large-scale infrastructure?

Pop quiz for WSP7: In the American West which contributed more to the forming of urban civilization: the device known as the rifle, or mail-order shopping?

Whatever Mr. Colt and Mr. Winchester may have done to subdue the West, I would say it was Mr. Sears and Mr. Roebuck who made it first habitable and then civilised.

Things -- basic utilitarian things like stoves, shovels, nails, all neatly arranged in catalogs and ready to ship to wherever a prospector might lay his hat, made urban habitation possible.

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I liked your post. It reflected a caring, contributing, concerned individual.

I was in SoCal about half a century or more ago, at times surfing around Laguna, Corona del Mar, Newport Beach. In places, orange groves as far as the eye could see.

Lived in Tustin then, pop. about 2000. By the end of the sixties it was over 20,000. Now it's over 75,000. Large part Hispanic and Asian. About half, I believe.

I think you'll know what I mean when I say I don't want to know the way to San Jose.

As the song says, "call some place paradise, kiss it good-bye."

You think Florida is hot. Don't come to Louisiana from 1 June, to 30 September. I was in Orlando during the summer, and it was cool compared to the humid heat of New Orleans. The only place where I was more miserable was when I was in Southern Arizona and Nevada on summer vacation. At least there it cools off a bit at night. Not in New Orleans. There is too much moisture in the air for it to cool down much. 81 degrees, with 100% humidity and absolutely no air movement is uncomfortable. That is at 5 A.M.

If these new urbanist communities are ever built they may well host the latest innovation in street lighting/public surveilence technology: Intellistreet systems made by the company Illuminating Concepts. These are street lamps with WiFi enabled computers that control a variety of functions, such as monitoring and recording video of the streetscape, recording conversations of passersby, displaying ads or public announcements on LED display panels attached to the poles, and playing sounds into the street. The cities of Detroit, Chicago and Pittsburgh are planning to install these with Department of Energy backing and the plan is that they will incorporate Dept. of Homeland Security capabilities such as broadcasting emergency notices. Each unit costs $3000.

What I find obnoxious about this plan, aside from the obvious loss of privacy for our "safety", is the prospect of bright, winking advertisements blazing away on every lamp post, adding to the already over-loading of one's senses in dense urban areas. Think of the steet scenes in "Blade Runner".

No doubt hackers will be irresistably drawn to the challenge of hacking into the system's WiFi signal to program their own content. "Citizens, this a Homeland Security alert! Terrorists have dispersed Sarin gas in the city. Drop your valuables and run for lives!"

CF-ers, I found this interesting piece on seafood and the oceans, but the article really gets to the issues of fossil fuels, energy, transport and food production. So much inter-connectedness on this little planet, as human greed continues to trump sustainability:

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I sometimes give Obama shit for not having the guts to come out of the closet, but if we could make all black males into homosexuals like Obama, it might be a big improvement?

I think you got it exactly right, Zed Leppt In: any 'New Urbanist' planned communities in the US will undoubtedly feature a plethora of surveillance cameras, listening devices, motion sensors, undercover plain clothes police, plus an air force of overhead drones to keep track of every living thing, as well as miles of coiled barbed wire, replete with checkpoints, deployed around the perimeter to keep out the hoards of hungry undesirables circling round this cosseted paradise. Probably not the utopia Jim and his New Urbanist cohorts had in mind.


Truly, Youse Guys.
But I'm not convinced these kind of communities can be cobbled together "from scratch" unless done very quickly (say, within the next 5 years or so). Will the capital be there? Will durable materials be in any way affordable? If so, will only the wealthiest be able to inhabit these places? If that be the case, how will they be supplied (as the wealthy ain't much into providing for themselves by the sweat of their smooth, untroubled and botoxed brows).

As the troops in Vietnam found out, bringing low-paid local labor in through the gates in the morning, then expelled in the evening, can lead to life-threatening shenanigans and pertinent intel.
So, should these communities be "exclusive" (in all that represents) they certainly won't be viable for very long.

Maybe if it should come about more "organically", as a practical arrangement by forward-looking people, it could be possible with scavenged materials/repurposed town centers. (Greedy psychos need not apply; that's where the poison always flows from.) Would that be a utopian thang? Absolutely not; a survival necessity is more like it.

What's he doing in there? Looking for his swim trunks for the next vacation he so richly deserves? (Campaigning, like thinking, is HARD.) ;o)

Speaking of closets and the secrets hidden therein, the bankers and their institutions happen to be hiding the fact that they're beyond broke.

Since your "cash" money ain't making squat for interest in there anyway, get it before it vaporizes.

Appearing soon in a FUSA theater near you! (Amongst the host of other swindles.)

Oz, there have been planned communities in the past, both rural and industrial. Lowell, Mass., and Brook Farm, also in Mass., come to mind. Both had their day. But Lowell, hometown of Jack Kerouac, began declining around 1920. Seen Lowell lately? It ain't pretty!

Not a racist? Then why do you not capitalize the w in Whites? Your smallest gesture show who and what you are.

At least you didn't defend the Black Eqypt quote which you know to be a canard.

Are you and the family traveling to Greece again this year?

Volunteering for non profits? You bet,

In the early '90s my sister volunteered for Earth Island Institute in San Francisco. The stories she told were hilarious and disgusting.

The director, John, reserved all paying jobs for "affirmative action employees". Turned out that meant attractive young women from elsewhere that ended up in his bed. Anyone else was welcome to work for free of course.
The place fed off the grant money being given to the nascent environmental movement and produced some good works. One friend of hers that was a real radical now works as chief apologist for a huge grocery chain doing greenwashing.

The hypocrisy of these places is like acid, it etches you to the bones and finally leaves you so wasted that you move on.

Asoka, if Blacks were so important in Egypt why does all the temple and grave art show them as diminutive figures in servile positions?


Re imitating the boycott technique that they use.

It's well known among sharpies that if you want to succeed in a local business, just start a business doing exactly what Jewish businessmen have already started. They have sniffed an opportunity and they are sharpies themselves.

".... the only place I was more miserable..."

You should have splurged and gone all out for an air-conditioned room.

Most of us have heard the saying, " yeah, but it's a dry heat." Essentially, that's true.
Humidity often in the single digits. Makes all the difference.

What alot of people don't realize is that even during our wet season, the monsoons in July and August, the humidity is relatively not that bad.

Better vacations to you.

Downtown Lowell is magnificent with the river and the converted factories to condos. But much of it is infested by an alien race - the Builder Race seems to be departing. Thus it is in Egypt as well. Thus everywhere. We have failed. Now is the time to do some soul searching before we become completely extinct. Your Warmonger Conservatism will not save us, but only sacrafice more good genes to the New Moloch.

Viola! Id wager there are 100s of cities as big as SJ [or at least a million people]that dont have symphonies. Those cities are in China, India, etc.

Mexico City now has 30? million!
Does it have a symphony?

Since your "cash" money ain't making squat for interest in there anyway, get it before it vaporizes

Put your money in Brazil reals, 6% on savings account, and they pay you once-twice a week, so you see it right away.

peace peaceniks


Good story about Earth Island Institute! You can't make up stuff like that!

Another of my volunteer experiences was at The Computer History Museum...about 10 years ago. I was volunteering by writing marketing propaganda and serving as a media liason.

I was stunned at how the staff couldn't manage to get to work at a reasonable hour in the morning. Also...the museum was a nepotism hotspot.

The final straw was when the VP was supposed to take me out to lunch as a way of saying thank you. (I only worked during the school year and school was out for the summer.) I got a babysitter ($10/hour), drove up to Mountain View and the VP was no where to be found. I got stood up at my own "Thanks for your help" lunch!) I felt horrible and unappreciated. She apologized by phone, but that wasn't enough. She should have sent thank you flowers.

It's a bad situation--the lack of a symphony in San Jose. Back around 2000, they declared bankruptcy--just two weeks after I'd renewed my season tickets. Never got my money back BTW.

Yes Vlad...

And sometimes there is competition for non-management positions. My husband, the fabulous electrical engineer, wanted to donate some of his time helping poor high school students in math. The answer, "We have more volunteers than we can handle."

you gave me butterflyz ,新开魔域私服,


何年も?つのに不思? ...

?れててもいつでも ~
he knows that i love him very much

No Mike, we are not going anywhere near Greece this year. Being stuck on the ship last year, unable to see the Acropolis because of the stupid taxi drivers blocking the port was terrible. I shall never, ever attempt to see Greece again.

This year I'm planning a mother/daughter trip to see more parks in Utah. My daughter wants to take lots of pictures for some art she has planned. We're going to Cedar Breaks, Arches, Dead Horse Point, Newspaper Rock....

Planning on putting thousands of miles on my old minivan.

OT, but those of you in the West may be interested in the annular solar eclipse this Sunday. (For spammers in China and Japan it's early Monday ;-)

Here's a good website. Click on Worldwide Map (there or here) -- clicking your location will show the times & duration (in UTC).

Wishing you clear skies!

Some good thought-provoking posts from you this week, SJ. It's good to have you around this CF.

"Planning on putting thousands of miles on my old minivan." -sj-

Yeah, SJ, enjoy! Seeing some of this country with your kid and a camera, is one of the better uses to which petrol is likely to be put, this summer. I've been to Arches with my wife and kids. Those are some stark and forbidding landscapes. Keep us posted.

Volunteer work - I unload trucks and do tasks involving movement of my large muscle groups - at the thrift store/food bank for my county - from time to time.

I don't know. I know places like that are necessary and do good work - but I don't know. I'm concerned that we've developed subcultures in the US of A that rely on "free stuff," and just expect it to BE THERE. And these subcultures include red/yellow/black/brown/white - but are skewed to non-white minorities. Which is fact, not racism.

One of my boys got in trouble with his house payments a couple of years ago. And as he was going through credit "counseling" to try to get qualified for those alleged TARP funds for troubled homeowners. (which were mostly smoke, mirrors, and bullsh*t, BTW)

Anyway, this credit "counselor" kept telling my son to go to the local food bank. It was really about the only concrete suggestion that she offered him - but it really offended him.

He called me up, and we got offended together, all over again - coming to the following conclusions:

Food banks should be for the truly destitute, only. And our family will never take from food for the poor, unless we're in our dead last extremity. And until that unfortunate circumstance hits us - we will GIVE food to the poor.

Tough, uncomplaining pride, even in bad circumstances - it's another vanishing moral quality - in these United States.

If you make it to the southern part of Utah I highly recommend a stop at the San Rafael reef off of I70. The closest city is Emery. One of the most breathtaking sights I ever saw in the Painted Desert. Any pictures you see of it online do not do it justice. The only way to appreciate the scale of the thing is to see it. It really does look like something from another planet.

"Your kind was there men first tried to ride horses. You told us to get off before we broke our necks. You were there when Orville and Wright tried to fly - mocking them with the rest of the mob. You called Bell and Edison cranks. YOu were there when fish first tried to come onto the land. You mocked us as "oxygen sniffers"." -vk-

Vlad, that's pretty funny. And if you made the whole thing up, you deserve points for creativity.
Somebody ring The Bell of Creativity for Vlad.


We have different visions, Vlad.
You picture a White Sanctuary, somewhere in the American Redoubt. You think the die is cast for this, already. You don't care who you offend - in fact, you live to offend, because this brings your "race war" closer and closer.

Now I, on the other hand, offend only when necessary - say in defense of my family or of Truth.

Again, I've become completely convinced that I've got more investment and knowledge about POSITIVE, WORKABLE Black/White race relations - than do Mika/Bill/Buck/Asoka, all PUT TOGETHER.

They are dilettantes - poking and playing with forces of Black/White relationships, thinking that they are safe and perfect - because, after all, Their Tribe is PERFECT, in every way.
Just imply otherwise, and they'll attack you "to the death." (hi Bill!)

However, you Vlad, are a bomb thrower.
Where I live, in the integrated South -

We hold racial bomb-throwers and racial dilettantes - in equally poor regard.

"'You mocked us as "oxygen sniffers'." -vk-

Well, at least they weren't castigated for being "cop jock sniffers". I guess Vlad likes sniff things. And thanks, Vlad. Everytime I trot that one out, it's free drinks for the rest of the night.

Agenda 21. There is really only 1 agenda, but it goes by many names. Agenda 21 is no different from the war agenda, or political agenda, or financial agenda. It is an agenda for control of population. Specifically it spells out in carefully-designed phrases how the Elites would like to move all us subhuman peons into tightly-controlled population centers, leaving the rest of the land for the use of the Elites as they see fit.

Think "Escape from New York," right? Although I thought the movie portrayed what might be a good model for a prison for violent offenders.

I draw my inspiration from Nancy Reagan. Just say "NO". Once I tried it, I couldn't BELIEVE how many things I could apply it to. Just say "NO" to the Left/Right divisive. Just say "NO" to rigged elections. Just say "NO" to being sprayed with perfume at Macy's. Can you run? Then don't go to their "tightly-controlled population centers". Oh yuck. Sounds like Ft. Bragg to me.

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Editor: Sam Yang, from

Really? Why not just embed a Pabst Blue Ribbon commercial? Fuck this.

From Agenda 21:

9.22. Analysis of recent scientific data has confirmed the growing concern about the continuing depletion of the Earth's stratospheric ozone layer by reactive chlorine and bromine from man-made CFCs, halons and related substances. While the 1985 Vienna Convention for the Protection of the Ozone Layer and the 1987 Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer (as amended in London in 1990) were important steps in international action, the total chlorine loading of the atmosphere of ozone-depleting substances has continued to rise. This can be changed through compliance with the control measures identified within the Protocol.

What the UN is doing, quite literally, as its function, is saving the world from itself, by using diplomacy, primarily, between political (nascent tribalism) entites.

Here at Clusterfuck Nation, we don't assume that there is any special significance of Elites on the global pattern, since any of the other impending crises are of far greater consequence.

As trite as it may sound, fundamentally, our survival doesn't depend on what Elites will do.

The UN Agenda, quite succinctly, lays out the general objectives it has established for decades, amended as necessary by, in this case, evidential facts as revealed by SCIENCE.

But will it succeed? Witness the world's chaotic, unfocused and ineffective bargaining and jostling, which results in atrocities like the carbon summit, where Elites, Corporate Persons, and Governments, along with NGOs and nonprofits get together at a convention center and decide, on behalf of all, that we are satisfied to do nothing, and accept wildly optimistic global temperature rise by 2 degrees Celcius.

Elected and empowered by Earth's hundreds of functional political power structures, they have de facto ability to tell us what is good for us. Even if all of America overthrew the government and refused to sign the Protocol, that would only account for 1 of 196 official countries, and up to 350(est.) unofficial, or uncontacted political entities.

Way, way back, smart people, people with extreme foresight, or perhaps just unencumbered by an overlord of mass media (TV, radio, the Internet) realized the necessity of a unified world government if a growing population consuming increasing amounts of resources with greater and greater technological power expected to continue doing so on a planet with fundamental, physical limitations.

If you think the UN as it is that entity- the "one world government" you're definitely wrong. It isn't even close! It isn't even a government.

"But will it succeed?"

Not when you see

The San Rafael Swell.
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“That Omron sphygmomanometer was our first household medical device. We now have an electrical thermometer, a bloodstream glucose maaigrette, a agenda pearchter and body fat-counterbalancet analyzer" -the "chinese spammer"

"Really? Why not just embed a Pabst Blue Ribbon commercial? Fuck this."
-X, in response to the spammer-

X, the big difference is that someone might actually read a real PBR add and actually buy some beer.

I'm 90% convinced that the "Chinese" spammer is really Olde8M/Spidey.

He's passive aggressive. Hates JHK.
Wants to see JHK fail.
Hey, he's got things in common with that other Impediment, too.

Two posters continuously hurt your website, JHK.
And cut into your bottom line.
It's not impeding free speech.
It's just good business.
Do it, make it stick, and you won't regret it.

Kyooshtik: Have you ever heard the saying "If it's too loud you're too old."?

Your point being, what?

Hey BustinJ,

I know you're in essential agreement on this, but it bears repeating from time to time.

Without LEGAL immigration, the population of the USA would stabilize in less than 5 years, and then slowly begin to drop.

At present rates of population growth, all due to LEGAL immigration - the United States is not only part of the problem, it's the WORST OFFENDER, to destroying any global environmental initiatives.

Let us test Q's theorem. Turn it up. Way up.

Thanks Xhalor, I checked the San Rafael sights on the web and have added it as a destination.


The "Spammer" is not a human being.

The spam is reflecting the mass methods of attack that are being used, as we speak, on the other side of the internet's firewalls.

For every one of these messages that gets through the filters probably miss a million if that gives you some idea of scale.

What we are seeing is the evolution of a program with some elements of guidance- either by a human or an algorithm. What is the objective? To get better and better at fooling other algorithms and eventually, more humans.

Recall how its earliest manifestations were illegible and incoherent. Now, it is more coherent and legible. With each iteration it becomes better and better at becoming more lifelike.

Ultimately the Internet may be overrun, at least in text-based discussion boards, by artificial people.

One day the algorithm will become near perfect and fill every corner of the Internet's discussion forums with imaginary simulacrum.

Until then...

"One day the algorithm will become near perfect and fill every corner of the Internet's discussion forums with imaginary simulacrum."

And shall be called ASOKA

Did I not stand *STILL*?!? Ahahaha, it's only fraud...

Scrub a dub-dub!



You don't always get to choose your battles. Read Sowell's article - the war is upon us already in some places. And it's going to spread. Did I start it? Don't be so foolish. And don't be mad because I saw it before you did. Many saw it before I as well.

And like the rest of the Liberals here - you get mad when I ask questions you can't answer without contradicting yourself. Again, what price freedom? Or do you think the price was paid once and for all long ago? How convenient. Jefferson disagreed.

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"Put your money in Brazil reals, 6% on savings account, and they pay you once-twice a week, so you see it right away." -welles

Very good. I suggest getting your cash out of the failed banks to at least have access to it, and you suggest they move this cash into ANOTHER HEMISPHERE and convert it to another currency, no less! (Besides, Brazilian bankers are so much more trustworthy than any others...)
That'll make things soooo much more convenient when still residing in the FUSA. Riiiiiiight.

Have you heard the word "context"?
The "investment advice" is appreciated, but it's nearly a 180 from what I was trying to get at. (DIS-investment, commonly known as divestment.)

Those attacking Yemeni airliners will be roundly criticized for soiling perfectly servicable bridal gowns. Another choice of garment would be advisable by fashion mavens. Said Saul Swischer (apres his STUNNING show of the 11th), "Gun oil just won't come out of organza. I don't know what they were possibly thinking in this poor choice of accoutrement. Don't ask me to comment on such awful taste ever again; I'm a very, very busy person who is trying to make the world a more fabulous place. Now, begone..."

You sez,
"Seen Lowell lately? It ain't pretty!"

Okay, but is it walkable? ;o)

(I think we'd agree that any self-organizing community would have to be based on its' present realities, rather than unobtainable utopian ideals. With the flexibility to change as situations change, without being chained to status quo "profitability" for a few schemers.)

If you're looking for a reason to leave California:

California had the largest number of single-race, non-Hispanic whites (15 million). It also had the largest populations of Hispanics (14.4 million), Asians (5.8 million) and American Indians/Alaska natives (1.05 million). (from


There's almost as many Mexicans as whites in CA now. No wonder the state has a PERMANENT deficit which cannot be filled. Next to Blacks, Hispanics in America are in second place in the commission of crime and second from the bottom in educational achievement. Hispanics in CA use up a huge amount of the state's welfare and social services dollars.

Needless to say, with their educational underachievement they don't exactly contribute much to the intellectual part of the labor force and they game the IRS for extra-child tax credits.

When is this nation going to wise up and close the freaking borders?


Dan said:
The place fed off the grant money being given to the nascent environmental movement and produced some good works. One friend of hers that was a real radical now works as chief apologist for a huge grocery chain doing greenwashing.

Dan, I feel your pain. Much of the greenwashing in the USA now is using a putative "environmental cause" to, in fact, fund a political cause like squeezing whites out of assisted public housing so that buildings can be filled with Hispanics or Asians.

You gotta hand it to the Mexicans and Asians ... they stick together like frigging glue when it comes to screwing Honky. I know a couple of impoverished white women in Palo Alto, one an American and one a Russian-American who go to one agency after another, usually staffed by a Hispanic, only to receive gruff treatment and to be told the waiting list for them is five years. The Latino staffers are "stuffing" the buildings full of their own kind and not getting caught.

California is already a third world country and is not too far away from a probable permanent and ongoing default on its bonds.


Two posters continuously hurt your website, JHK. And cut into your bottom line. It's not impeding free speech. It's just good business. Do it, make it stick, and you won't regret it.

I made 17 posts on May 15 directly related to the topic of New Urbanism, raising different implications for discussion, without engaging in any kind of ad hominem attack.

I don't believe the Chinese spammer has made a single comment about New Urbanism.

Your ad hominem labeling of my relevant on-topic posts as "Asoka-infestation" is offensive and rude.

Your 17 posts were mostly internet copy-paste jobs.
You gave few references or links, so that posters could actually follow up, on what you posted for further discussion.

Taken as a whole, your 17 posts were contradictory of one another - and thus, as has happened on many topics, you pose an impediment to discussion of New Urbanism - which Impediment will Reside on this week's discussion thread, "forever."

"asoka.infestation" was intended to be a offensive and rude an hominem, soak.

Glad you figured that part out, anyway.

an offensive
ad hominem


I have told these stories here previously, but will repeat.
1....On the street a woman starts 'crying on my shoulder'. Her tale is 'Im Jewish but Jewish charities wont help me. They only help jewish immigrants'. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2...3405 Via Dolce / Marina Del Rey
Owned by the Govt, Low income housing . Now controlled by Russian Mafia [?].
A friend had a relative living there. Of the 200 units 190 to 199 were Russian Jews. He was told
'Russian Mafia controls and takes bribes, RJ move to LA and pay to move in'.
Our immigration policies at work.

John Mc Cain [he who didnt know how many mansions he and T owned] SAYS IMMIGRANTS ARE HARD WORKING AND KEEP THE BORDERS OPEN.

This was posted to CFN Monday without a reference or link.

"Local planning codes reflect and support cultural and class beliefs that alienate Latino barrios. And you wonder why Hispanics don't "assimilate"
-the resident copy-paster-

But the idea expressed is important enough that I followed up, read the whole abstract, to see if the author actually thinks things are as bad as the asoka.clip above made it seem.

He does.
Mr. Gonzalez essentially argues that "barrio residents" will NOT assimilate into "mainstream" American culture - as represented by New Urbanism.

You guys remember the old analogy of America as a melting pot? It needs reworking, and I feel like torturing a metaphor this morning.

Here goes:
The American Pot was once a beautiful idea and a functional model for the assimilation of waves of immigrants - who aspired to become "American."

But, excessive legal AND illegal immigration has filled the melting pot to near overflowing. New immigrants (in this case Mr. Gonzalez's barrio residents) cluster in the melting pot in huge clumps. Not only do these clumps refuse to melt - now they begin to arrogantly demand that the US remake its social and political life - to fit the old mores and folkways of the "new" immigrants.
These clumps make the contents of the melting pot become toxic.

The melting pot is full to the brim.
The heat is still turned to FULL BOIL.
The contents of the melting pot - once considered harmless - have become flammable and incendiary.
Overheating cracks the melting pot and threatens to destroy it permanently.

But no one with power will turn down the heat.
By reducing immigration.

And here's the link, so those who don't fear Truth, can see for themselves.

And sincere thanks, asoka..
That was a post with an idea worthy of discussion.
Not bad.

Yes, theres Low Income Housing in Santa Monica, full of Mexicans.
Is it owned by HUD? Some development corporation?

and you suggest they move this cash into ANOTHER HEMISPHERE and convert it to another currency, no less!

oh my gosh, have you ever heard of online banking??? i have bank accounts in 3 countries and have never had a problem accessing funds immediately via atm's everywhere.

plus, other currencies appreciated like crazy against the us dollar over the past few years...

wake up

if you're so scared then go conservative on your overseas deposits....

man you people are so challenged

peace peaceniks

When is this nation going to wise up and close the freaking borders?

haha, never. game's too bountiful as it is.

it's like george burns said when asked if he was afraid of dying (when he was 99):

"No. There's no money in it."

peace peaceniks

That sounds like a much better experience. I see some others have been giving you suggestions. Have you ever hiked the Narrows in Zion? It's epic.

Make sure you get off the pavement and do most of your exploring on foot. By staying on or near the pavement you're spending a lot more money, just like the AAA and the tourism and motoring industry want you to do. If you have some backpacking gear do some overnight trips...even better! If you don't like carrying gear on your back do a river trip...better still!

Get Michael Kelsey's 'Canyon Hiking Guide to the Colorado Plateau'. A wealth of info for hiking out there...

Have fun.


And one other thing... Don't forget your sunscreen.

Jim, this week's essay has been nagging at me and for the last few days I've been mulling it over to figure out why.

To me, it seems to be written by an alter-ego and speaks with a voice contrary to your usual one. It's too sanguine, too upbeat. Hurrah, hurrah, three cheers for the New Urbanists! As if they will save us from the coming calamities. It's too little, too late.

Oh sure, they can make cities a bit more pleasant, but as for the battle against the continuation of suburban sprawl being over, well, I wonder.

If Romney and the Republicans get in we may have at least temporary increases in oil production, the environment be damned. Suburbia may have one last gasp, along with one last, great gurgle of oil.

You said "the housing bubble bust massacred the New Urbanists." Well, is there nothing further on the horizon to continue the massacre?

How about Brook Farm, New Harmony, and the New Urbanists?

Frederick Law Olmstead made life more pleasant for alot of people. The New Urbanists may do that also, but they won't change the world.

Yes Mike, I've hiked the narrows at Zion. It's wonderful to hike up and then float back down the Virgin River. Truly heaven on earth. I'll be wearing a hat during all my adventures.

Get someone at the L.A. Weekly or a similar rag to investigate it. Sounds like an issue that they would love to bring to light.


If we didn't have such a lovely climate, first class culture (in SF at least) and beautiful places to hike, I'd leave California.

It's sad that your anglo/Russian friends can't get relief for their difficulties. I was driving past a nice rent-assistance apartment complex near 85 and Camden. Crossing the street,walking to the apartments, were two women with traditional Islamic clothing, and wagons full of little children. Maybe if your friends covered their heads they'd get some help?

In Palo Alto I've driven past the new Koret Jewish center/senior living. I love what they've done with the landscape architecture.

Another recent/strange observation...I was buying shoes with my daughter (upcoming prom) and I saw a very dark Islamic woman buying "ghetto" Nike shoes for her teenage son, who had the whole package--pants on the ground, backwards cap, pimp-in-waiting kind of style. Yet her teenage daughters had full length dresses and scarves and weren't showing any skin. Hmmmmm, interesting family dynamic.

Taken as a whole, your 17 posts were contradictory of one another...

Gee, isn't discussion about looking at different points of view? I see several sides related to New Urbanism. I am not pushing any one point of view, though I am concerned about affordability of New Urbanism projects.

"asoka.infestation" was intended to be a offensive and rude an hominem, soak. Glad you figured that part out, anyway.

Your insistence on rude and offensive ad hominem attack is an impediment to a good and civil exchange on the topic of JHK's post this week.

And sincere thanks, asoka..
That was a post with an idea worthy of discussion.
Not bad.

You are very welcome, P2C.

See? We can be courteous. We can be friends. We can all get along.

Thank you your polite and civil exchange.

You guys remember the old analogy of America as a melting pot? It needs reworking...

I think it needs to be thrown out completely.

America is a salad. All the ingredients are mixed together, but individual identities are not lost.

This means English is not the only language in America. This means the white race is not the only race in America. This means anglo culture is not the only culture in America. This means Christianity is not the only religion in America.

People are free to come here, take over political control, and refuse to "assimilate" to your language, your religion, your values.

The USA is great precisely because it NOT a melting pot.

"...oh my gosh, have you ever heard of online banking??? i have bank accounts in 3 countries and have never had a problem accessing funds immediately via atm's everywhere." -down-the-welles

So you've gone and taken this to the NEXT step into the ephemeral and inaccessable: the dancing electrons. Do you get the concept of "physically accessible"? You've gone into the religiousity area with imaginary, magic money of bits and bytes flying into the uncharted, yawning gulfs of the cosmos.

And I'M the one that's challenged and snoozy?

Oddly, over the weekend I was musing through “Looking Around” book, collection of short writings about architecture and urbanism by Witold Rybczynski, where he prized “Seaside” development. Elsewhere in the book he was eminent that “suburbia is here to stay”, which everybody was thinking at that time, given that book is over twenty years old.
Introducing a “New Urbanism” to America, while I appreciate the effort, is akin to individual into his sixties who suddenly wants to lead a healthy life after entire existence to that point of drugs, alcohol and smoking.
Looking at the “Seaside” images and having heavy bitter/ salty aftertaste from bulkiness and gimmicks of Postmodern Architecture, I can tell that this is some kind of self absorbed community, a bit “uppity” and could not help but go: “Yeah, and?”
Narrow paths between white picket fences are as being done only because they are “cute”, invoke some memories or sense of domestic security. Where they lead to? I do not even want to know.

Idea that one lives in modest home in higher density housing, and that is what most people can really afford, and that City Center is rather a Living Room where is entertainment and where people gather together –all classes of society, young, old and in between, just to be and not only to “purchase something” is so strange to American way of life. Somehow somebody convinced average American Joe, who has “two night classes and one recess in-between” (all counted) of “something” as a skill, that he needs and can live, with the help of credit saddle, in 2x framed “Tuscan” or “Tudor” with yards and all…
City offers entertainment, arts, shops and restaurants and that’s all good. Urban life is also sidewalks and squares full of people involved in beautiful spectacle of people watching.
For average overworked American living in bedroom suburbs “going out” means again driving after daily work commute, fiddling with parking and last but not least joy of having extra few drinks can be a problem. So, he settles with remote and beer from the fridge.
Even getting together with the neighbors is awkward endeavor. Dana Carvey’s stand-up gig of two house party attendees, standing shoulder to shoulder, not facing each other, with glasses in mid air and endlessly saying nothing but” Great…yeah, great…great… …great…” brings memories of actual experience and would have been funny if it’s not tragic.
Picture of work day nights in most American cities is that of well lit upscale restaurants occupied by wealthier members of society and eerie empty sidewalks. Exception is if university is close by so there is a presence of younger student population.
Promenade in Santa Monica or Open Farmers Market Thursdays in Fullerton are good samples of urban interaction in LA, which are dismantled as by magic with early curfew as soon as sun goes down. Now, how you change that?

Fake Tudor houses in suburbia are an eyesore. Now these houses scream "Built in 1982." During this time it was also fashionable to have wetbars in family rooms. (Really? You can't walk 20 steps to the kitchen sink?) I suppose it was all a grand dream that you'd have the neighbors over for a martini (shaken, not stirred) and they'd be wearing leisure suits and short skirts. (Maybe James Bond would drop in?)

In the same way, 20 years from now, granite counters in brown, black, taupe and bits of white will announce, "Built in the age of excess, ala' 2003."


My small adobe abode screams ecologically sound, historically ubiquitous, financially paid off.

In 20,000 years my casita's small footprint will be gone, and the adobe earthen walls will have turned back to dust ... without contaminating the environment.

To be or not to be -- Shakespeare

Do be do be do -- Sinatra

Do adobe -- Asoka

WARNING to CFNers using Android:

There has been an increase in malware variants for Android. Of more concern is the increase in the actual number of malicious Android applications discovered in the same time period. According a recent report, that number has jumped to a staggering 3063 counts in Q1 2012. That’s a lot of malicious Android apps!

While malware continues to spiral out of control on Android devices (even on Google’s own app market), there still hasn’t been a single known case of malware on Apple’s iOS platform.

Say what you will about Apple’s “closed” App Store, my data prefers the security of Apple's adobe walled garden over the anarchy of Android’s malware-laden thorn patch.

So you've gone and taken this to the NEXT step into the ephemeral and inaccessable: the dancing electrons. Do you get the concept of "physically accessible"? You've gone into the religiousity area with imaginary, magic money of bits and bytes flying into the uncharted, yawning gulfs of the cosmos.


Yes, it's been that way for decades now, and electrons representing virtual money are in endless supply. Do you get that?

Thanks to "magic money" "religiously" being deposited every month into millions of American accounts, there will never be a popular revolt in the United States. Sorry, ozone. No violence. No blood. Just an endless supply of electrons.

Do you believe in hack-proof electronic systems using the current state of the art? There has NEVER been one and there isn't one now. Have you, personally ever been involved in software development?

This goes hand in hand with the your response to Ozone. "Just and endless supply of electrons". Until someone pulls the plug. OR hacks into the system. Did you read the part about the "accessibility" of money.

Goddamn! You're on a roll!

Troll on a roll.....with a side of cole slaw.

ha ha, i think i would prefer "hush" puppies from the hoser...just sayin'...

I swear to GOD that I almost said "hush puppies".
Menu change noted.

Perhaps, the headlines of LAW are of a murder, in 'closely knit Russian emigre community'.
One week the cover was over someone who cheated a 'cat rescue' out of its big $$$.

LOL! Ain't gonna happen.

i know, i know; but a guy can dream, can t he?

They say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

Apple will be the only giant tech company to use renewable energy to power its server farms.

By the end of 2012, we’ll meet the energy needs of our Maiden, North Carolina, data center using entirely renewable sources. To achieve this, we’re building our own facilities that will provide over 60 percent of the clean power we need. It’s another example of Apple’s commitment to designing for energy efficiency — from the ground up.

For the first time in modern American history, the white birth rate is in the minority.

Leftie liberals will feel proud and smug and say, "look at what we can accomplish in this great nation, look at what we can do for humanity. Oh color, don't be a fool, an uneducated philistine, what does it matter, the world is one."

If only they could live long enough to find out.

Every building should be judged how well it serves it’s function and how design corresponds to settings and climate where is located. Most overlooked quality is that is also an expression of materials used to construct it.
Framing construction exclusively used in No America, has obvious qualities of speed, practicality, ease of remodeling, and specially here in California being light and flexible when Earth trembles. Problem is that 2x framing is used as underlying structure and everything else is slapped over like movie prop to give a feel of this or that “style” or rather illusion of “wealth” for prospective owner. Most working people have no business of being Tudors, Tuscan Landlords… but apparently they want to be just that.
What is the purest expression of framed construction? It is a post, a beam, plain sheet of wall or glass, ceiling and floor joists - arched opening result of masonry bridging the span, in theory, has no place in this construction (cry me a river). In what kind of houses is it best represented, and you can say in most logical and therefore most “green” way? Answer is midcentury modern home, drummed by talented architects and designers of that era, but rebuffed by general public who wants to be Counts and Countesses.
Area where you live has a multiple developments in fifties and sixties by Eichler, retired butter and milk maker turn developer who actually hired those architects that I mentioned, did not make as much money as “other” developers but created cherished legacy.
Here in So Cal he built four hundred or so units and used to own one. Beautiful home, glass box made small footprint to visually expand all the way to the property lines.
I am not a advocate that every home built should be minimalist box – but teachings of mid-century homes the way materials are used should be a good benchmark.
In case of imitating historical style, architect should be knowledgeable with ancient construction, which most American ones are not, as to properly execute the design. To properly execute final product one must hire quality craftsmen. Both, quality architect and craftsman apparently are not needed for the illusion that average American home is.
Most architects and designers privately love minimalist design, but hired to do something else they’ll do it. Decent ones can’t help but quietly shake their heads listening to clients “wish list” which is really simple: “Make it BIG”. Any attempt to suggest to cut square footage by third, and still have all that they need, and rather spend money by hiring true artesian craftsman to make, say, head spinning entry in stone or wood is flatly rejected. That creates quality craftsmen extinction. And without them what kind of “Tutor” that we are talking about?

"Apple will be the only giant tech company to use renewable energy to power its server farms."

Swell. Here are two things for you to research.

1. How much clean water does it take for Intel to make microprocessors?

2. Where does all the E-waste go? Remember, these are the most toxic appliances we've ever made?

yep, i get physically accessible, which is why is said if you're so scared then go conservative on your deposits...., i.e. keep only a smaller amount accessible electronically.

i've been buying gold / silver since 2003, the former @ under $350/oz. and the shopkeepers used to laugh when i said i'd sell it back when it doubled.

course you always had to buy at least two ounces so as to avoid reporting god, what would the bloody gov't do if it couldn't track your arse.

jhk's right when he calls the country 'floundering'.

used to be great, now it's just low-rent most any way you slice it.

peace peaceniks

Nonsense. Whites are a victim of their own success along with a certain type of greed. After all, having children is a considerable time commitment not to mention the financial burden. And it's not just a burden avoided only by white liberals; take note of the childless right-wing/white supremacist posters on this site ironically lamenting the feeble white birth rate.

And it probably goes without saying that white women have elevated their standards when it comes to which White Buck fertilizes their egg. The Charles Atlas mail order body builder parading his public FB page on CFN is probably not a good indicator for the sensible,intelligent gene. Scratch that one. And neither is the angry white racist/misogynist touting the mail order bride business the hombre a decent woman wants to raise children with.

How many children do you have Tusconspur?

If there's one thing the world doesn't need, it's more unwanted children. Regardless of race.

I always enjoy reading your insightful posts Balkan.

Every building should be judged how well it serves it’s function and how design corresponds to settings and climate where is located. Most overlooked quality is that is also an expression of materials used to construct it.

John Ruskin wrote that no architect is really an architect unless first a sculptor. And the "truth to material" direct-carving sculptors were one significant link in a long chain of influences- De Stijl,etc - who paved the way to a mid-century type of architectural formalism/minimalism.

But I have to say, much of that minimalism leaves me cold and probably because its architects were no longer "holding the stem of nature" to invoke Ruskin.

As Lee Lawrie so beautifully demonstrated, a minimalistic structure need not be completely bereft of ornamentation. Indeed, and like an oasis in a desert, small branches of ornamentation sprouting from an architectural Sahara amplifies the human need and appreciation for Nature by way of contrast.

Which is the same reason oil shale will cause major problems: extraction needs LOTS of water, which I suppose might be ok if the shale was in my neck of the woods, but in water-starved Colorado, which is already on the verge of water wars with Arizona and California, it will produce even greater conflict, and maybe even leaving Coloradans with a bleak choice between fuel or food.

"People are free to come here, take over political control, and refuse to "assimilate" to your language, your religion, your values."
-asoka, proclaiming a Kinder, Gentler version of that great old refrain, "Death to America."

Yeah, OK. Whatever. On this one.
You wish for a country without a common language; one that doesn't even try to PRETEND that there is a possibility of common culture -

You argue for the same sort of "Balkanization" of the Former USofA, that Vlad takes grief for wishing would happen.

"The USA is great precisely because it NOT a melting pot." -asoka., wrong again-

Again, whatever. The problem is that no one ever cancelled the "melting pot." It's still full to the brim and burning with a white hot heat from all sorts of people who aspire with all their might, simply to become "Americans."

But now, the asoka.'s of the land have thrown salad fixings on top of the melting pot - and declared that immiscibility is a desirable goal.

So the Chile Peppers are popping mad!
And the rest of the salad is wilting and burning in the heat.
The whole mixture is turning toxic.

"Death to America," brag the asoka.'s.

That goal may be in sight.
Be careful what you wish for. And all that.

I'm 90% convinced that the "Chinese" spammer is really Olde8M/Spidey.

He's passive aggressive. Hates JHK.
Wants to see JHK fail.
Hey, he's got things in common with that other Impediment, too.

I also think Old might be the spammer not because he is "passive-aggressive", but because he had this fixation on the 'arbitrariness' of it all.

And yet from my view Old was simply trying to steer the discussion - to invoke Descartes by way of Heidegger - down into 'the roots and soil of metaphysics' and 'from that which the trunk of physics springs the branches and leaves of science'. And yet he was constantly derided by the 'materialist' types on this site who seem to believe that the trunk, branches and leaves exist independently, like a physical brain devoid of spirit, from the roots and soil.

Ironically, many of these same materialists' are actually dualists when it comes to invoking "God".

Apparently, based on your denouncement of Old, you also fall into this camp?

How many more wars is the US good for?

"Israel, while saying it would prefer a diplomatic solution, has expressed skepticism about these talks and says time is running out for military action to be effective.
President Barack Obama has assured Israel that the U.S. is prepared to take military action if necessary,..."

"Israel says a nuclear weapon in the hands of Iran would threaten the Jewish state's survival and has waged a fierce diplomatic campaign against the Iranian nuclear program for years."
When reached for comment, Mika/Met was paraphrased to say, "This is all the fault of the Vatican. Jews have no control at all over US foreign policy, being forced to live in ghettos in New York City, as is well known.

Bill was quoted as saying that he would defend Mika, "to the...oh, never mind."

Quotes are jokes, btw.
Humor much, anyone?

"Apparently, based on your denouncement of Old, you also fall into this camp?" -buck-

Honestly, I sort of understood Old Olde.
Several times, I wrote to tell him that the US already has the rudiments of his "guaranteed salary" in place, what with AFDC, SS, etc.

He never wrote back to me directly.
And I still remember when he took Wage's head off over a friendly little link she posted, somewhat supporting his (now sadly vanished) idea of a good BUS network for the United States.

Old's basic problem is that he's a crazy OCD overposter, who's been banned by website after website, and he's taking it out on JHK - for lack of a more logical target.

Hey Ozone -
I tell you what I would buy, instead of those Brazilian Reals, or whatever money de jour it is that Wells is pushing -

I'd buy a couple of 100 foot rolls of standard 4 foot wide concrete reinforcing mesh. They are selling it around here for barely less than triple its scrap value, right now. And it's such useful stuff.

Ripped Thunder recommended it for tomato cages last year - formed into a circle and with the bottom wire cut off, forming spikes. That WORKS! Two years running, now. Thanks, RT.

And you could rig temporary containments of all sizes, from compost piles to livestock fencing. Not to mention how useful all of that BARE iron wire would we to a good blacksmith, post-SHTF.

I may just buy another roll.
Wish I had more space.

You argue for the same sort of "Balkanization" of the Former USofA, that Vlad takes grief for wishing would happen.

You have eaten salad before, right? Do you "balkanize" the ingredients so none of them touch each other, or do you mix all the ingredients together in one salad bowl?

I am not and have never been for balkanization. That is what we have now with all the imaginary national borders dividing the planet, and all the militaries of the world willing to kill to defend those borders.

I want to eliminate borders. I want freedom of movement on the planet earth.

I want people to live in integrated neighborhoods, not balkanized ones. I have nothing in common with Vlad on this subject.

"I want people to live in integrated neighborhoods, not balkanized ones. I have nothing in common with Vlad on this subject." -asoka.-

What you "want" people to do, and what people are actually doing, are two diametrically opposite things, asoka..

You live in a land of make-believe.
Your ideas do real harm to real people, though.
At least Vlad understands how real people really behave, be they red/yellow/black/brown/white.

I'm done for the night.

I've seen Latinos and Chinese infiltrate the senior housing market in Palo Alto and, ouila (!!), in a handful of years the assisted public housing venues are full of Hispanics and Asians.

In my little burg here in central NJ it's the Chinese. They seem to have a genius for working the system.

BTW, it's voila. Sounds like vwah-lah. This has to be among the top 5 effed-up words on this blog.

If I could live in an Eichler, I'd be happy. I have several friends that own them and they would never move. I envy their inner courtyard gardens and their radiant heat floors. I don't care for the way they look from the curb. I wish someone would start building Eichlers again. Make them more energy efficient and more approachable for the neighborhood. Up here, they sell for a fortune--at least the homes that haven't undergone nasty "upgrades."

I live in a single-story 1700 sq. ft. house built in 1985. The good news is that it was built to withstand earthquakes. I have spent hundreds of hours making the garden beautiful so that the view from all windows is pleasant. Even better news, it's almost paid for! We bought it in 1990 and have never taken out a second mortgage.

I would say it was Mr. Sears and Mr. Roebuck who made it first habitable and then civilised.

You are correct. The Sears and Roebuck catalog was kept handy in every outhouse. One sheet was ripped out to wipe the ass. Two sheets if the dump was particularly messy. The catalog was so large that a small family could sometimes make it through a whole year with it. This was a great boon to civilisation.

You live in a land of make-believe.

No, I live in an integrated neighborhood of white, black and hispanic neighbors. Spanish is spoken as often as English where I live.

The USA is multicultural and multiracial.

That is a fact and anyone who denies it lives in a land of make believe.

We bought it in 1990 and have never taken out a second mortgage.

Mom, You've been paying for your home for 22 years and "it's almost paid for!" Mortgages are usually 20 or 30 years. How long is yours? What is the interest rate you're paying?

If you have not re-mortgaged your home in all those years you have missed at least 2 or 3 opportunities to significantly lower your monthly payments. Particularly in the past 3 years or so.

I bought my house in June 1978 with a 30 yr mortgage. I think the interest rate was 8.75%. Along the way there was a significant drop in rates so I re-mortgaged without borrowing any more money but cut my monthly payments. Timewise the home would still be paid for at approximately the same time, mid-2008.

Another swoon in interest rates allowed me to re-mortgage again and this time I borrowed an additional $10,000 and made some home improvements with it. The additional borrowings were roughly offset by the lower interest rate so my monthly payments remained about the same.

As my retirement date came into view (I retired in Feb 2006) I began to do everything in my power to pay off 2 cars and the house. I doubled the amount of my house payments for a year or so. This saved on interest payments. By Sept 2005 I made the last payment on my car and in Dec 2005 I made the last payment on my wife's car and the house.

Two weeks to the day before my retirement date (I think it was Feb 6, 2006) I informed my boss I was leaving in 2 weeks. He was miffed to say the least. He said "I thought you were staying till Jan 2007." I said "yeah, well I got all my ducks in a row so I'm leaving in two weeks." I seriously detested this boss so I relished the opportunity to stick it to him.

Anyway, depending on how long you have to go on your mortgage I would look into a re-mortgage. I think rates are quite low right now.

BTW, when I did my second re-mortgage it was with Wells Fargo Bank and they had some kind of deal where there was absolutely ZERO closing costs. The whole thing was handled with amazing efficiency.

One sheet was ripped out to wipe the ass.

Dry wiping after a bowel movement is not always the most hygienic, yet it's the most widely available method of cleaning up in the USA.

There are products you may buy, though. Perfume free and dye free moist towelettes are one option, but the problem with moisture is that it ought to be removed from the rectum sooner rather than later to help avoid irritation.

Whether wet or dry, here are some good wiping techniques to try:

Wipe from front to back. Wiping from back to front may spread bacteria to the urethra and to the genitals, a risk most significant for women.

Wipe thoroughly but gently. Too much friction may cause micro-tears, which are more prone to infection if fecal matter gets inside them.

We refinanced once and have a nice, low rate. Every year we pay extra, so we only owe $58K.
We always pay cash for cars. We save up, bit-by-bit, then pay cash. Better than paying interest on the car.

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Spidey [or who ever] you are the Unabomber of this site.

"Oh yuck. Sounds like Ft. Bragg to me."

I've been to Ft. Bragg. Ft. Bragg ranks higher in quality of life compared to the other east coast fort I had le pleazure of serving at--Ft. Jackson.

As for Agenda 21 I think the movie "Hunger Games" is a wet dream of the Elite. And yes I can run and I will NOT comply. I'm too old to comply anymore.

We refinanced once and have a nice, low rate. Every year we pay extra, so we only owe $58K.
We always pay cash for cars. We save up, bit-by-bit, then pay cash. Better than paying interest on the car.

I am very glad to hear ^this^.

BTW, re volunteer work: If you had ever been a soldier you would have learned never to volunteer. As a general principle I am against "non-profit" because of the old saying "you get what you pay for."

Some of your horror stories about giving your services for free and then getting fucked over as a thank you are heart breaking and really piss me off.

All the free work I do happens within my own home for my own family.

Dry wiping after a bowel movement is not always the most hygienic, yet it's the most widely available method of cleaning up in the USA.

You may recall that 2.5 years ago I made a trip to Dubai and after returning I wrote with great enthusiasm about a device that is ubiquitous in those parts of the world called a hand-held bidet (sp?). It completely puts to rest all discussion of ass wiping. I can't even believe we in America can be so far behind these other parts of the world when it comes to ass hygene. The Japs are centuries ahead of us according to my daughter who made a trip there.

One of the first things I did upon my return from Dubai was to go to Home Depot to see if I could buy one of these devices. UNBELIEVABLY NO!! but the guy in the bath dept WAS aware of the device and said that he got many requests for it (because we have such a high population of Indians) in central NJ.

He said just Google "hand-held Bidet" and you will find numerous outfits selling them.

It is a simple device that you can install on your toilet in 15-20 mins. Its a squirting device. You poop then you squirt yourself clean as a whistle then you pull off some terlit paper and dry your ass. You DO NOT wipe and endlessly smear the shit around. I am NOT lying when I say the hand-held bidet is right up there with fire, the wheel, sliced bread, and the microwave oven.

Depending on how fancy your tastes are you can get one for $25 - $75. Naturally my wife isisted on the chrome gizmo for $75. Do not wait another day. You will thank me.


























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My pooper thanks you.

Now where can I get me some cheap Chinese crap?
Hmmmmm... I needs me a man bag; you know, one of those deals to cradle the fam'bly jewels.
(It's very difficult, but I could trawl the web for a few days and find some; it's very rare and availability is limited, as we all know...)

Schprinkle yer schtinkle!

Good gawd; the choices, the choices!
If the New Urbanistas would install these in every public "facility" in their planned community, they'd have no problem recruiting hordes of the "unwashed" to their cause.

That might've been me, but that's neither here nor there. It's likely we've seen that in the exact same pennysaver publication.
My "tomato tent" is in action again this season. (Large sheet of heavy plastic draped over the towers to capture heat and protect from cold winds.) It's doing it's job well; t'maters beginning to form on 3 foot, happy plants.
I don't cut the bottom strand of the grid, just stagger them two deep [cheek to jowl, kitty-corner] work them into the soil a couple inches then wire the tops together with household wiring. 14 gauge is nice and bend-y as well as reusable. Surprisingly stable even in high winds.

Just another off-topic note on grapes (huh?):
I'm not sure if it mightn't be too warm for grapes in your area (there must be some varieties that love that heat), but I have a Concord that's cold-hardy and let that sucker do as it liked for a couple years, laying all about the place. It put down roots from the trailing vines, so when it was pruned and trained this year, three new clones were snipped out of the mess. An excellent outcome, so I'm letting the "new" plants perform the same duties in their selected locations; no more buying of expensive vines! Pretty clever of ol' Ma Nature, eh?

I tell you what I would buy, instead of those Brazilian Reals, or whatever money de jour it is that Wells is pushing -

totally agree. i'm not pushing anything one-sidedly. having a *mix* of options works very well, so mix cash on hand with some online cash, grow your own plants (food & you can also sell 'em for cash, which i've done tons of) and become at least somewhat independent.

get a second or third passport if you can, it's great to be able to travel / work freely with all the attendant rights and opportunities.

glad to see some real-world tomato growing out here.

peace peaceniks

Good idears.
Diversity in all things, I guess? (With my 20 tomato plants there are 5 varieties, we'll observe [once again] which are best adapted in order to save their seed.)

Eichler homes are something, aren’t they? Also demanding, thou, like owning a sail boat: owner has to constantly fight battle between unobstructed view that large panes of glass offer and penetrating sun rays that in particular time of the day find it’s way to the (expensive) midcentury furniture. Ply siding and numerous wood trims ask for yearly attention. All that trouble, however, is worth of every minute of living in those homes.
They were built in time of unmatched prosperity and enthusiasm in US so it is not developer’s or architect’s fault that they are suburban homes. JHK’s writings are warning signs how that concept is coming to an end. It want affect current owners immediately, just as you said those are “pricey” properties so they will be able to bear the gas prices grunt. Future is different. Gallons of gas are needed just to drive kids from all those homes to school, Even quick drive for forgotten carton of milk or bottle of wine. will be costly. This communities will eventually need more “:local things”, and that would create a NEW BIG problem which is: “Yes, we need a local store but not next to MY house”.
Our Eichler, being desirable home, went fast just in time. Based on current economic and even more political situation here in US I, personally, would not want to own a tent let alone half a million dollar home. Sad.

Appreciating design minimalism is acquired taste. As with sushi.
Interesting that JHK has a problem with Viennese Loos, even he may have been the first “green” architect. Every time that I am at or near some construction sites and watch beefy columns with “decorations” being boxed out with 2x4’s I also watch the pile of leftovers, which will go to the dumpster, next to it. That is one way to “get” Loos.
Boxy, plain house if not appreciated for its proportions which are the key, can be in beautiful concert with carefully placed plants and trees. Or nearby home. When I drive my son to the school in one of the streets we pass by the row of cute Victorians and it is like :ding-ding-ding-ding… then suddenly dong: an plain Art Deco. Other than play of volumes, it offers stark shy overhung above the entry and only decoration is triple groove in plaster which runs around entire house. In that contrast Victorian next door is even more filligranic but Deco stands its ground also in proud simplicity. the home-owners have no trouble finding their house, ha ha

Tusconspur has no children.

Tucsonspur now, like the liberal, says that you are all my children.

If I said five, would you say ten?

Yes, and the fecund childbearers can live off the greedy, successful whites by going on the dole.

You don't mention the women themselves opting for career vs. family, opting for just the thrill of sex without achieving its purpose.

On this one Buck, you're alot of chip but not much shoulder.

God Bless Rep. Adam Smith of Washington State

Smith said he also found absurd the idea that his and Amash's amendment somehow helped terrorists.

"Hands down, the dumbest set of arguments I have heard ... [is] that somehow taking away this extraordinary power from the president rewards terrorists," he said. "I'd like to remind everybody, in particular, Tea Party conservatives, that just because the government arrests you doesn't mean you're guilty. Under their thinking, basically once the government says you're a terrorist, you're a terrorist. And we shouldn't have a trial about it."

"I cannot believe that Tea Party conservatives want to create a situation where when the government says you're guilty of a crime, that's it, no trial," Smith continued. "Let's just lock you up and forget about it."

You are far too smart, but no contribution to the gene pool.

Speaking of Tomatoes, this year it will be Beefsteaks, strictly Beefsteaks. A big, hardy, heavy tomato, great for sandwiches and garden salads.


I rejoice and lament at the same time.

You know how to lay the plush carpet, then break the legs so one can't walk.

With all the hubbub today about the IPO (Initial Public Offering) of FaceBook stock it seems a safe prediction that Jim will have something to say about this event in his Blog on Monday.

Nice 28 year old Jewish boy becomes an $18 Billion-aire in an instant. The company's value itself more than $100B. This is how we do it in America - we "friend" people we don't actually know; no concerns about depleting oil wells, declining water aquifers, fished-out oceans, global warming, or CCC credit rated Greek Banks.

I'm sure Jim will spin a great rant.

Maybe I'm not that smart. Did you miss the sc-cs transposition in tucson?

Speaking of Tomatoes, this year it will be Beefsteaks, strictly Beefsteaks.

No offense Wide but "the Jersey Tomato" is the best in the world. It is often a rather lumpy, imperfect shape with a motely red color that turns toward orange and green near its stem. It has not been engineered into a perfect shape but its flavor is unequaled. I used to pick them by the basketsfull on Jarvis's Farm back in the early '50s. Sometimes I'd wipe the dirt off one on my shirt and bite into it as I stood there in the field. Jersey is to tomatoes as Idaho is to potatoes.

When you look at the iconic Campbell's Tomato Soup can, think Jersey Tomato.

I, too, look forward to a JHK rant on this latter-day tulip mania. An analyst I heard on NPR said that Facebook's P:E ratio would be about 100. At that price, a cool $90 billion of that capital might as well be dumped down a sinkhole.

Also, more nouveaux riches in Palo Alto. Lovely. That's the last thing my native city needs.

God Bless Rep. Adam Smith of Washington State

Since Atheism is one of your core values (or to put it another way, since theism is NOT one of your core values) may I suggest when using an expression such as "God bless..." you follow it with NTBTL-IJAE (meaning not to be taken literally - it's just an expression) or something similar. This way you can avoid charges of contradicting your core values.

A goodly portion of Oregon is infested, too. One of the monthly business rags in Ashland has a feature this month with a colon hydrotherapist, who addressed concerns that patients can become habituated to hydrotherapy to the point of being unable to have a bowel movement without it. No, she said, her hydrotherapy regimen works with the colon's natural rhythms, helping to strengthen the colon, not weaken it.

These are a medieval people, many of them willing to pay quacks top dollar to optimize the egress of their own shit. Ashland is not a good town for the mentally sound. On the other hand, it's a great town for those who enjoy being fed, or forced by their spouses to cook, waffles in which olive oil and powdered milk are substituted for butter and eggs. I have some new posts up about this sort of bollocks at Aliens in the Family.

As you'd probably guess, much of this idiocy is the work of diaspora Californians. More than a few of them are totally batshit.

An analyst I heard on NPR said that Facebook's P:E ratio would be about 100.

Some how I feel that FB will eventually be able to "monetize" 900 million users to bring down that P/E to a more reasonable level...not that I have any intention of buying the stock.

BTW, you have your own Blog don't you? I really enjoyed your writing but I seem to have lost the bookmark (favorite). Please provide link.



Thar she blows! Now don't say I never done nuthin' fer ya. ;o)
(Yes, I read it; I'm just quiet about it.)

Uh-oh, don't get the tomato-braggin' started; it often leads to gunplay in a dusty street at high noon, pardner!

The purpose of writing is to communicate. Often cultural expressions are used. You understood perfectly without writing NTBTL-IJAE, the use of which would have interfered with communication.

If you were to design a "Statue of Tyranny", what would it look like?

It would be a likeness of Ronnie Raygun. Grinning maniacally, nekkid and halo-ed, sporting a large erect ICBM where his usual equipment would be, and giving a double-handed single-finger salute to you and me! (And I don't mean "thumbs-up", Poppets.)

" often leads to gunplay in a dusty street at high noon, pardner! "

No, no, no! Let's be civil, huh?

Tomatoes at twenty paces.

"...sporting a large erect ICBM where his usual equipment would be..."

Can it be a red, white, and blue ICBM?

Vive la France!

'Fraid not, X.
It's a terrible and ghastly bid'nez, tomato-braggin' is.
There is no civility; there's only winners and losers.
I DO prefer your method, but, alas, I fear it's too non-lethal to be implemented by most tomato-braggarts. (They want blood... red, red blood... yes, red as their beloved to-maaah-toe juice!!)

BTW, is it time yet to literally place your bets, Ladies and Gents?
Who ya gonna trust?

If a bank should fail in the European forest, does the 'Merkin press hear the death rattle?

Mais oui! Vive la guerre! ;o)

The "Statue of Tyranny" could be a tourist attraction...make some money off the foreign tourists....

The "Statue of Tyranny" would have to be the opposite of the Statue of Liberty, in my view. In other words, it'd have to be male, ignorant and represent darkness. Basically, a TSA officer with a big belly, a crew cut, tortoise shell glasses, and blue rubber gloves.

Now you're talkin', mon ami!
GROWTH in the services industries; we just needed the right angle to bring in the rubes! (90 degrees?)

Asoka, you say that Western Civilization rests not just on the civilization of Rome but on three others as well, those of Jerusalem, Athens, and Alexandria. Many will agree with you. And for the purposes of this post, I will agree too. But I think my point still stands. Jerusalem, Athens, and Alexandria were indeed the fount. But Rome was the channel through which the cultural waters from this fount (I am almost ashamed of this metaphor) were delivered to western Europe, Medieval and Modern.

Some of the points that you make in your "skeletal structure" I agree with. Some I don't. The rest I have no opinion on because I don't know the facts.

I'm not at all sure that you can separate gnosticism from the Hermetic tradition, and both of these from Neo-Platonism, though this is conventionally done. These three strands of thought are so tightly intertwined that they could be considered as one thing rather than three. Further, gnosticism is more likely to have been the work of Jews rather than pagan Greeks, which makes its point of origin Jerusalem, not Athens. My disagreement on this point is perhaps trivial.

As you say, many Westerners do not even consider Egypt to be part of Africa. Thing is, Egyptians themselves, educated and not, think the same. What this means, of course, is that they disagree with the Afro-centric idea (those that have heard of it) that ancient Egyptian civilization derives from sub-Saharan Africa. Therefore, they would disagree with you. And in disagreeing, they are probably right. Not trivial, this one.

By the way, Asoka, I've long been thinking of writing a general reply to your posts. What I have wanted to say to you is this: I've long admired your command of the English language. Your grammar, syntax, and punctuation (to my mind) are nearly always spot on. Can't say the same for most of the other posters on this site.

Ha! Good 'un.
Saint Ronnie doesn't fit those parameters? Oh, that's right, fitful dozing from time to time doesn't inspire much weak-kneed fright. As you might remember it was treated as a gentle rib-nudge in the news of the day. ("The Prez'dint has Alzheimer's; ain't that just too cute? We think so; you should too.")

"Can't say the same for most of the other posters on this site." -Jam47

Terribly sorry, Old Bean! What say a stout whipping by Professor Pedrist for old times' sake, what-what?
I shan't live with the shame another day unless duly punished by a proper English grammarian. Huzzah!

33-year-old Knoxville, Tenn., resident has reportedly set a Knox County record for his ability to reproduce. He has 30 children with 11 women. And nine of those children were born in the last three years, after Hatchett -- who is something of a local celebrity -- vowed "I'm done!" in a 2009 TV interview, saying he wouldn't father more children.

But Hatchett is back in the news this week because he's struggling to make ends meet on his minimum-wage job. His inability to make child-support payments on such a meager salary also means he's back in court again and again, most recently to ask for a break on those payments.

"Yes, we've got several cases with Mr. Hatchett," Melissa Gibson, an assistant supervisor with the Knox County child support clerk's office, said with a sigh.

Hatchett's attorney, Keith Pope, did not return phone calls seeking comment.

I am probably my own worst critic. My thinking and typing speeds sometimes don't jibe, so my writing often contains errors. Nonetheless, I try to proofread and revise before hitting the submit button.

I attended public schools in the midwest in the 1950s and my education included phonics and sentence diagramming. The school had a well-funded library, which I put to good use. I also opted to study Latin as an elective class. My public school education was a satisfactory experience.

Besides formal education, exposure to other writing styles has probably helped as well. I have read books all my life. I love public libraries, with their inter-library loan system that literally gives one access to millions of titles. Much more scholarly information is available in libraries than is available on the Web. Probably 10% of published monographs are available full-text on the Web. Libraries have 90%. Didn't mean to fall into a rant.

Thank you for your gracious words.

"I want to eliminate borders. I want freedom of movement on the planet earth.
I want people to live in integrated neighborhoods, not balkanized ones."
-asoka., Death to America, continued-

"I want. I want. I want.."
-asoka., demanding reality fit to his prejudices-

Yeah, OK. Again, whatever.
10's of millions of US residents disagree with you.

Here's proof, since you ignored it the first time.

And we have hardly started down the backslope of energy descent and "peak everything," which will make US residents (citizens is passe and less and less valid a term) even MORE tribal in their attitudes and living arrangements.

"What I want
What I want
What I want, want, want" - asoka. -

That's almost as catchy as:
"to the death"
"to the death"
"to the death, death, death"

Similar ultimate outcomes for the US, though.

Self-promotion by proxy. I like it.

My guess is that if Facebook really monetizes its operations it will be by bamboozling credulous advertisers. From what I've heard, the problem with that strategy is that online advertisers are more demanding customers than print or television advertisers. They often demand that data be broken down to levels that are impossible in other media, e.g., click-through and purchase percentages. That said, with the amount of hype that Facebook has generated it will probably have no trouble stirring up a feeding frenzy among its advertisers, at least for a while.

Facebook's membership numbers are a bit misleading. Many of those members are hardly ever on Facebook, and others are bots or low-level mercenaries, kind of like Groupon's peer-to-peer sales force. Even the hardcore members are not likely to want to pay for the service after getting it free for so long.

I think of Facebook as an approximate online equivalent of a combined postal, broadcast and telephone system, with a few ancillary platforms thrown into the mix, all running at a loss and supported by an in-house advertising operation. It's practically inconceivable that anything resembling it in the brick-and-mortar world would be remotely as well capitalized in an IPO.

This looks like just the latest case of tech fever. All in all, I can't shake the feeling that Facebook's stock is set up for a spectacular crash.

Well, Hatchett certainly didn't spare the rod!

Fomer U.S. President and Nicaragua Contra-sponsor, Ronald Reagan seemed very submissive to his National Security Adviser, and former Merrill Lynch CEO, Donald Regan. Ronald Reagan was a bit of a shoe-shine Obama....

"What I want
What I want
What I want, want, want" - asoka. -


Fortunately, frequently what I want is what I get.

Take these for example, during my adult lifetime:

Civil rights. 1964. Check.

Voting rights. 1965. Check.

Abortion rights. 1973. Check.

Out of Vietnam. 1975. Check.

Amnesty for illegals. 1986. Check.

Balanced national budget. 2001. Check.

Black President. 2008. Check.

Out of Iraq. 2011. Check.

As you can see it is often the case that what Asoka wants, Asoka gets.

Having wants is human nature. Usually, when someone criticizes another person's wants, what they are really saying is "I want you to want my own wants". Unfortunately, that is the attitude of someone who feels powerless, thereby desiring control of others' actions and feelings. A healthy response would be to say, "I recognize that you have those particular wants, but they're not for me".

That most of your numerous posts contain a snide reference to something either I, Mika or Asoka said shows me you are terrified of us and seek to ridicule us to regain some sense of your own worth. You need to seek professional help for your obsessive behavior.

a snide reference to something either I, Mika or Asoka said

Speak of the devil, I've been enjoying his absence these 2 past weeks or so. My operating assumption is that a bunch of Litvaks have drowned him in a mikva (sp?). Good riddance.

I believe you are correct, AMR. Advertising on FB doesn't work. At some point, advertisers will realize this - if they haven't already - and in a poor economy especially,will start pulling out of FB to cut their own expenses. Then, where will the revenue come from to support FB's stock price?

I think buying this stock is a sucker's bet. If I could have been one of the people allocated to buy the issue, I would have sold it on the first day after it made its initial bounce when the market opened.

Speaking of Groupon, I'm of the opinion it has a failed business model and will eventually go under in the not-too-distant future.

Finally, anyone invested in the market now better be an excellent stock timer with a hair-trigger sell button on their computer, else they will eventually get crushed by the thieving minions of those who rule Wall Street.

You are entitled to your opinion, Q, no problem. Unfortunately for you, Mika has stopped posting for a few weeks before and then returned. We all get posting-fatigue from time-to-time. Personally, for reasons I have stated before, I don't mind his comments, but that's just my own feeling.

Off-thread, what do you think about the idea of purchasing Facebook stock? You can read my comments on it a few posts up the line, but I'm curious about your opinion.

"...I've long admired your command of the English language. Your grammar, syntax, and punctuation (to my mind) are nearly always spot on."

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Thing is Q, when I think New Jersey, I don't think Tomatoes. I think twinkies and fried pork rines. Is there any farmland left in that State?


Campells soup not withstanding.


-asoka., Death to America, continued

America has sown death and destruction around the globe. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.

But it won't be me delivering the death blow. It will be Boehner and the Republicans. Boehner recently asserted that he would once again force a showdown over the U.S. debt ceiling.

Krugman compared Boehner and his ilk to Manchurian Candidates, whose "real job is to bring down America." Republicans have become so extreme, he said that their strategy at the negotiating table is simply to "threaten to destroy the economy unless they get what they want."

Does anyone know when they'll launch the FuckBook IPO?

I think that Obama represents the "Death of America", so to speak.

Yeah...sure it's a step up for black people that there's a black man in the White House, but Obama's got zero character, a mockery of Dr. King's "Dream"....

Even MORE off-topic chicanery...

GM has already announced that they will not be advertising on the next Stuporbowl broadcast. (They already know that GeeDubya-ism: "This sucker's goin' down.")
What's the first department to be thrown over the side of a sinking company? Why, that would be advertising, me hearties. Arrrrr; ye'll be walkin' the plank, ye jingle-jugglers! **Squawk! Walkin' the plank, walkin' the plank.**

...And companies BASED on advertising revenooz? It is to laugh. (I can hardly wait for the dissolution and final obliteration of "Madison Ave.", the most prodigious purveyor of pernicious prevarication presently polluting the planet.)

Fakebook? Of course. $104 BILLION, please.

Y'see, Facebook and face-plant have the same basic problem. To wit, a lack of underpinnings.

Do we, or do we not understand that these things are all just outward symptoms of the "death-addicted arrangement"?

Mr. Kunstler certainly does, and says so most every week.

"In our once laboring class neighborhood, McMansions blot out the late spring sun. In the arrogant shadow of these shoddily constructed, bloated emblems of late capitalism, the neighborhood's remaining 1950's single level, brick homes seem to recede…fading like memory before the hurtling indifference of passing eras."

-(P. Rockstroh's dying father's Atlanta neighborhood.)

Where the berserker and the builder meet and agree, this is the place of discovery, a quiet and dangerous place that contains the essence of who we really are.

"You need to seek professional help for your obsessive behavior." -btb-

Nice insult, Bill.
Seriously, it's a great improvement of Mika's insults - where he specifically wishes "genocide" on those of my friends and family who happen to be blue/green eyed blonds.

And I actually share this thread with my therapist. He considers it theraputic.

I had always figured he was a Jewish man, but we Goyem in the United States have been trained from birth to never consider such questions, so I didn't give much thought to it.

So anyway, I shared some of Mika's online threats of violence with my therapist and he said, "Wow, are you sure that son of a bitch is Jewish? He sounds hate-filled and about half-crazy."

Then I shared some background information about you, Bill. Then he read over your post where you pledged to defend Mika, "to the death."

"Oy vey," my therapist said.

"Just remember, Mr. P2C," he said, after reflecting a few moments, "not all Jews are like those two."

I used to KNOW he was right.
Now, I'm beginning to simply HOPE he's right.

It's interesting that Mika vanished last week just after someone "outed" the trouble that Russian emigres to Israel were causing. Some had even been caught painting Swazticas on Synagogs.

Would you defend them "to the death," too, Bill?


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Ozone said:
Fakebook? Of course. $104 BILLION, please.

Y'see, Facebook and face-plant have the same basic problem. To wit, a lack of underpinnings.

I actually view the dud that was the FB IPO as a small sign of sanity in the US financial markets. I never understood why yet-another-tech-fad like FB would be bought by a retail investing public that has been clobbered by buying "story stocks". FB is just a souped-up MySpace ... another adult "toy" that in ten years will be the tech world's next Beanie Baby.

When the Dow was at nosebleed levels 13 trading sessions ago, the pundits were wondering why the retail investor was resolutely staying out of the market. Frankly, with US demographics being what they are, astute people should consider NEVER being in the stock market ever again.

There might be something to be said for being in vital commodities like foods and fuels but only via very long term futures and not via stocks. Generation Y's fundamentals are so poor that if the Fed insists on supporting the stock market, the only way you'll protect your purchasing power is via foods and fuels because the nominal Dow won't keep up with the inflation that the Fed insists on creating.


"FB is just a souped-up MySpace ... another adult "toy" that in ten years will be the tech world's next Beanie Baby." -E.

At least with the Beanie Baby and the Pet Rock, we got ourselves a stuffed toy or a rock to hold in our grabby little hands. ;o)

I met a lawyer who said that he's working on the Offering Documents for the new FuckBook IPO.

He said that in the FuckBook IPO Prospectus that it's important to disclose all material information that a reasonable investor would need to know in deciding whether or not to invest in FuckBook.

The stock analysts realised pretty early on that social network websites were poor vehicles for effective retail advertising. People go to these places to spill their guts, not buy things. Do we like the random Chisese ads? So, the real value for social networking websites is when they are data mined. And that's the scary part.

David Einhorn (hedge fund luminary) agrees that Bernanke is supporting the stock market. But more than that he says that zero interest rate policies are doing what you say they are doing ie encouraging inflation and thereby soaking up income through higher food and energy costs. And also helping the wealthy get wealthier through leveraged speculation:

There's no such thing as a free lunch. Neither is money free. What zero interest rates do is what we've seen them do for the better part of a generation: create massive distortions in markets be they for real estate or derivatives or tech companies or oil or wheat. A sequence of bubbles and busts each more disastrous than the last.

There's only two ways to a reasonable standard of living: 1)Work. 2)Saving.

Why save? For the future certainty of a rainy day (it's not like life MIGHT piss on your forehead, life WILL piss on your forehead). And for your old age.

In my opinion fucking about in stocks and other securities for the average citizen is the road to ruin. You are a very small fish in a shark tank and it's not like you might get eaten. You will get eaten.

I look around me and listen to people (supposedly highly educated people at that) and they don't even know how to balance a checking account. Such is the level of innumeracy and financial illiteracy that half the fine folks out there (maybe more) don't know how compound interest works or how to calculate percentages. They don't know what company stocks are or how they work or what rights they confer and they are just as clueless about bonds. They have no business putting whatever little savings they have in places they have exactly zero understanding of. And they have no idea that the alleged "financial advisor" they go to is there to fleece them.

How do you see this monetization happening?

Sheesh. Would you quit worrying?
GW is ridin' to the rescue! (Probably astride a pig, from his "ranch".) And, wait, here's the best part: it won't cost us a thing! Uh... well... not real sure about that last part.

He's always there when we need him; I'm so comforted.

Thanks, I feel better.

i ll fire off a volley: about a decade ago, my pop found some volunteers from bradley and beefsteak he d been growing on our hilltop in the country- they crossed on their own, and are an heirloom variety in their own right, now...well everyone who has been blessed with a taste has claimed them to be 'the best i have EVER eaten'...they managed on their own to combine the best qualities of each- the skin is perfect: paper thin slices; but not too tough to place lovingly on a sandwich...flesh is juicy but not to the point of soaking a slice of bread, and is perfectly proportioned between the gel and interior walls...drool...and man, i can attest that they taste like tomatoes, and anything else (even other home-grown) are pale imitations...they are literally my benchmark now; and (in season) won t even bother with anything daddy can out-grow yer daddy!

The Facebook IPO has been the topic at a couple of family dinner conversations. The tone was snarky.

I liken it to a fad I remember from around 1985 when Bartles & James Wine Coolers were all the rage. I recall some twit saying that wine coolers could develop into a major portion of the wine industry.

Icky-poo. Has anyone ever tasted a wine cooler? I have and I thought I was going to have a high-sugar gut attack.

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  :175/95 (L) tao李希 太满意了。。。。299这样的衣服真的很值,买的时候没仔细看,以为是那种亮部的,原来是pu的,真的很好,全给5分[11.14]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) 乐儿911


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  scw 挺好的[11.17]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) xjkaiwei2006 衣服很好的,邮寄时包装的很仔细,好几层。给大家做个参考吧,我身高179cm,体重70kg,穿xl的正好的,里面还可以加一件羊毛衫的,




  17]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL) 爱吃土豆的灰太狼 超值[11.17]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) 夏子漪


  质量不错。就是尺寸太大了,上身有点肥换也比较麻烦。想想算了,就这样穿着吧。[11.17]颜色:咖啡i色尺码:180/100(XL) happytyww530 东西不错。。挺稀罕 。。 [11.17]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) zengguang0103 物有所值,非


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  [10.25]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) hanqing114 衣服大小太骗人 没法穿都放到明年了 [10.25]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100 XL促299


  元 田之魁 这个是仿皮子的面料,软软的,衣服虽说也是丝绵的,但是比一起买的那个马甲厚




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  不知道在干什么的客后服务****2 (匿名) 衣服好,就是有点大[11.16]颜色:咖啡i色尺码:170/90(M) tb51762 和石头一样重啊[11.16]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL) chezhengda1225 YY不错、值这个价钱[11.16]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL) 爱囡囡宝 非常好的衣服,穿着很暖和[


  11.16]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL) nq在一起 衣服,物流,非常棒。强势。无可挑剔。 就是太重了。。。[11.16]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) 印度猴 真的超值了![11.16]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) 耀king 看上去 蛮舒服的 衣服有点重啊。。。[


  11.16]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) 这是我淘宝买到最值的一件衣服![11.16]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL) ywdllj 太太太太赞了,双十一活动买的,收到后那么厚实,,超级暖和,本来担心不暖和,到了后天冷老公今年冬天穿


  不上了,等开春再穿,结果它真的是厚到穿不上,不过是因为暖和的穿不上,等过两天冷了再穿,太划算了,决定以后多多在这个店买衣服,多谢卖家~~~~[11.1色分类:铁锈红 尺码:M提交中,请


  稍候有用(0) 悠悠的奔走 质量啥的都没的说,很好,就是颜色不好看,比模特身上的要深很多,暗暗的。2011.10.27颜色分类:铁锈红 尺码:L提交中,


  请稍候有用(0) ningj... 衣服很厚实,穿着很暖和,就是颜色有点暗,有点色差,实物颜色接近枣红色,总体来好


  还不错2011.10.25颜色分类:铁锈红 尺码:L提交中,请稍候有用(0) susy1.


  .. 价格实惠.质量很好.款式漂亮.不买别后


  悔.决定长期关注此卖家!2011.11.01颜色分类:铁锈红 尺码:L提交中,请稍候有用(0) susy1... 价格实惠.质量很好.款式漂亮.不买别后悔.决定长期关注此卖家!2011.11.01颜色分类:黑色 尺码:L提交中,请稍候有用(0) tgx_1... 媳妇说,色差有点大,无限接近暗红色。袖子有点短。但设计不错,真的很厚实很暖和。


  2011.10.31颜色分类:铁锈红 尺码:M提交中,请稍候有用(0) shaok... 衣服还行吧,暗红色,就是有点大,本人158cm,92,M号的有点大,还好是韩版的,还看得过去,冬天ie 衣服很好,摸起来质感很不错,感觉很厚啊,冬天不怕了[11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) h******2


  (匿名) 非常不错····俺非常喜欢···[11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) qq122685827 175cm,125斤穿175的衣服有点肥,其它还好 好··[11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL) 周旺巴巴 东西 超好以后买衣服 都来这了


  [11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) w******2 (匿名) 蛮不错的衣服,保暖,厚实,下次买肯定还继续光顾[11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) lu397775352 很不错 挺好的 [11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:180/


  100(XL) 时尚物欲 质量一如既往的好。没的说全5分,就是衣服有点大了其他真是没的说,[11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) w34706928 很好,很厚的衣服一定很暖


  和。。。。[11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) 浅蓝色的爱154811481 跟图片上的略微有点儿不一样,我以为皮子是那种特别亮的呢


  ,实际货物不如图片看着色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) 我爱你_1128 衣服有点大,建议165的就买16


  5的。 但质量确实挺好,摸着很舒服,穿着很暖和,以后继续支


  持。[11.18]颜色:咖啡i色尺码:170/90(M) 半月2 好厚重,不错,物有所值…就是有点大了…[11.18]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL) 好厚重,不错,物有所值…就是有点大了…[11.18]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL) zhanglang8384 买大了[11.18]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL) 一世情缘吧 very nice[11.18]颜色:黑色尺码:


  170/90(M) bernie章 好的没话说!~[11.18]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) 唯我独尊6090 呵呵,有事没上,晚付钱了,[11.18]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) tb_106861 衣服还行,只是袖子那里太厚了,有点不舒服,,整体不错[11.18]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) 木木灿灿 不错,挺厚实


  的[11.18]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL) 陈自启 非常漂亮,很暖和哦[11.18]颜色:黑色尺码:175:175/95 (L) yinzw0908 跟我弟买的,我弟说还行[11.13]颜色:咖啡i色尺码:170/90(M) guoxiaolingg 超好,顶 不过在南方有点太厚了,这个冬天不太冷


  ,哈哈[11.13]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) lida509 第一次买mix2,太让我惊喜了,货好,没得说,这是我网购以来买得最值的,赞一个!!!发货也很快,两天就收到了![11.13]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) xiang890312


  棉衣外面的PU皮还可以,整体看着也不错,很沉,就是丝绵有的地方有,有的地方一点都没有,一点都不均匀。摸着疙瘩疙瘩的[11.13]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95(L)促299元 yf_yf88 很大,很重,


  很厚实,很实在,这个价格买到这样的衣服实在是超值。物流非常给力!从没这么快过,哈哈,好评!!![11.13]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) l******0 (匿名)


  衣服挺好的,合适[11.13]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95(L)促299元 大眼睛饭团 有点重啊,不过是棉衣没办法,还是


  不错的[11.13]颜色:咖啡i色尺码:175/95(1.17]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) 小妇妇






  想换了,估计会给爸爸穿,给大家做个参考。[11.17]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) 1*


  *****笨 (匿名) 衣服质量很好,诚恳的说一声真值了![11.17]颜色:咖啡i色尺码:180/100(XL) 依诺走天涯 宝贝非常好,非常满意![11.17]颜色:黑色尺


  码:175/ 东西可以,袖子太大了,


  小点更完美。物流也忒慢了吧,我建议以后不要发EMS [11.17]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL) 月******4 (匿名)值[11.17]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL) 刘春晖521 值


  [11.17]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) 刘春晖521 很好真的很不错 发货速度也很快呵呵 超级好评[11.17]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL)


  guobaolei521 衣服非常厚实啊,呵呵,建议买小一个号啊,冬天不怕冷拉,哈哈,这家的衣服都非常好




  客了。满分,支持![10.06]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) 诚信yyq 想不到在国庆期间发货好快!衣服好靓物超所值,有机会还想买件[10.04]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95(L) zerobing86 衣服 质量 挺好的 厚实 冬天穿着 一定很 暖和 不过 客服不给力 说话 很绕~! 快递 还破损率 自己开车去拿的 不过 衣服没有 破损 还好[10.03]颜色:黑色尺


  码:175/95(L) 王红丽000 衣服挺好的 就是帽子不好看 毛毛很少 看着和衣服整体不配 帽子拆了 领子很小 也不好看 挺纠结的[10.02]颜色:咖啡i色尺码:180/100(XL) 新人8023 有一些大!但是估计冬天穿的厚可能就不显大了!很喜欢!!质量很好!!谢谢~给你好评~[09.30]颜色:咖啡i色尺码:180/1


  00(XL) 神奇幻想_mt 质量很好 就是太大了 [09.28]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) 是袖子稍微有点长[11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) 天烈vsjielun 好评[11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) aideweiyi000 很好,给力![11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95


  (L) 疾奔无解 衣服没得说 质量好 衣服买大了 只能给别人了 售后是在是让人不满意 连起码的责任都不承认 何况只求一句承认错误的话都没有 [11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) 网上购物16070 让我特别没想到的是物流第


  二次感到ems这么快 第一次是去年也是在这买衣服 2天就到了 衣服很暖和 就是广州穿不到 140的时候买的 简直是超值啊~~~寄回去给爸爸穿了 早知道就直接吧地址留家里的了哎 郁闷[11.15]颜色:黑


  色尺码:175/95 (L) 小熊熊1202 140元就到手了....赚大发了!哈哈!!!今天刚拿到货太厚了吧也....这下可以去哈尔滨了哈哈!!!给个建议我173 65KG 买了M的~~刚刚好~我觉得175以下都能穿~~买大了就变大面包了~~ QQ996728334 这下有衣服过年了 哈哈!![11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:170












颜色:黑色尺码:175/95(L) ssxmi 超级重。太重了 穿久了累死人的。。[10.23]颜色:黑色尺码:170


  /90(M) bin198666 质量不错[10.23]颜色:咖啡i色尺码:180/100(XL) hcs115161896 拉链有点问题 质量还是可以的 出差去了 懒得换货了[10.23]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) 人多是祸 棉服不错 但是稍微有些重


  [10.22]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95(L)促299元 樱花飘2009 支付宝密码忘了晚了确认。。。[10


  .21]颜色:咖啡i色尺码:170/90(M) aubakinger 这件衣服太猛了,质量很好,很暖和,对MIX2的衣服一直很放心,EMS更加给力,衣服号有点偏大. [10.21]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95(L)促299元 填缝剂 宝贝不错,挺合身


  物有所值· 就是小礼品 太给力了··[10.20]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(XL) 雪域孤狼2010 态度很好,老公穿着也合身。上午发货第二天下午就到了没想


  到EMS还能这么快 比较幸运呵呵[16]颜色:黑色尺码:180/100(X


  L) sweekee1 物超所值[11.16]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) xjlyjsl 灰常满意,买给弟弟的,直接寄回家了,妈妈说很好很厚,刚好同事也买了一件,我看了一下,真是超值啊,这个冬天有了它,应该不会冷了。快递也非常


  给力啊,EMS看来我要对你另眼相看了。[11.16]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (L) 夏季过去 衣服真的不错 我说的真的是真的 好厚 厚的有点吓到我了 防冻没问题[11.16]颜色:黑色尺码:170/90(M) chenshuijun2008 还不错,很厚,很保暖。就是没图片上那么亮,返利网。[11.16]颜色


  :黑色尺码:170/90(M) 最爱花茶36 如果你想暖和,没错就这件了。。好评~~[11.16]颜色:黑色尺码


  :170/90(M) 安于现状灬丶 太大了,[11.16]颜色:黑色尺码


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  ngyufei 胳膊太粗了。。。。没想到这么厚实!![11.15]颜色:黑色尺码:175/95 (


  L) wh3312088 衣服很厚实啊~挺重的一件棉衣


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  最帅的杰杰 实物我没看到,


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Loos is an interesting character as some of his designs contradict some of his writings, most notably Ornament and Crime. For example, the sculpted panels on the wall of this below building:,_1922,_A1130_Wien,_Schlie%C3%9Fmanngasse_11,_Haus_Rufer,_p1.jpg

And I'm not sure what to think of this other building in the below link. On one hand - and from a superficial glance - it looks it might be a welcome addition to JHK's Eyesore of the Month club. But it's not really an eyesore; in fact, it's actually a very harmonious piece: the color of the green fence against the yellow of the windows stretches the analogous color scheme to a delightfully tense breaking point but it all holds together because of the sky itself,the white of the building, and last, because of that magnificent clock out in front.

And the various steps and returns of the vanishing point lines on the top of the building are particularly artful and subtle, or at least to my eyes.

So while I agree that some minimalistic efforts are an acquired taste worthy of admiration so much of the movement's manifesto ultimately degenerated into a false aesthetic window dressing that obscured the real bottom line of maximum profit for minimum investment - IMO.

This is the other link that I forget to post:

And one more thought about the window placement in this Loos building:

It has Mondrian written all over it, incredible order within the asymmetry. Yes, a real master indeed!

Rhino said:

David Einhorn (hedge fund luminary) agrees that Bernanke is supporting the stock market. But more than that he says that zero interest rate policies are doing what you say they are doing ie encouraging inflation and thereby soaking up income through higher food and energy costs. And also helping the wealthy get wealthier through leveraged speculation:

Another interesting feature of money-printing is MALINVESTMENT. They just pump money into the banking system but there is no control over the type of economic activity that is created. The result is that we have a ridiculous "boom" in web start-ups in Silicon Valley. It's WEBVAN all over again and it'll have the same ending, too ... THIS YEAR. You won't see the money directed into badly-needed public infrastructure projects and Obama won't alienate his banker buddies before his reelection.

I think the failure of the Facebook IPO (and when analysts were calling for first-day rises to $80-$100, a no-change day is a dismal failure for the most hyped IPO since 1999) is actually an indication that the worm is turning on the NASDAQ. After it worked hard to rise from 1200 to 2800 (still 44% below its 5000 peak in 2000), I think you'll see it go down steadily again over the next few years.

Most of these tech companies tie up the brains of bright kids to make products that have close to zero utility for the human race and I, personally, can't wait to see Palo Alto have a sudden surfeit of office vacancies to punish the greedy realtors in this once-great area.


Thanks for the links. I have not seen that one.
He was creating a path in the dark trying to find a new expression how a building may look. We tend to judge those early designs maybe too harsh since our eyes are now trained with knowledge of much more refined designs, but which, in return, could not have happened
without this early pioneer work. To judge this building you MUST consider the time when it was created and only then you realize how revolutionary his ideas were.
As for the JHK, all his “Eyesores” are right on the money. What happened to good or great samples of architecture from period that he despises so much? His thoughts about urbanism are also with merit, but he is also helplessly ingrained into nineteen century building design.

Back to our design judgments. That is more evident in design of, say, a chair. It would be absolutely unfair to judge bit clumsy look of predecessors of Aeron chair from eight decades ago in a manner that I mentioned above.
Funny that you mentioned Mondrian, since I was to post my experience from my trip to Lima last summer which blew me away with thousands of minimalist residences. Watching masterful placement of windows within very subtle play of cubes brought my thoughts exactly to him.
About that next time… A lot of work to handle. Not complaining though:)

A big IPO yesterday. Bookface?? Never heard of them.

Loos is an interesting character as some of his designs contradict some of his writings,

One of the things that makes him an interesting character is that he is referred to as "toilets" amongst his closest friends and he doesn't even get angry.

Thanks for the links. I have not seen that one.
He was creating a path in the dark trying to find a new expression how a building may look. We tend to judge those early designs maybe too harsh since our eyes are now trained with knowledge of much more refined designs, but which, in return, could not have happened
without this early pioneer work. To judge this building you MUST consider the time when it was created and only then you realize how revolutionary his ideas were.
As for the JHK, all his “Eyesores” are right on the money. What happened to good or great samples of architecture from period that he despises so much? His thoughts about urbanism are also with merit, but he is also helplessly ingrained into nineteen century building design.
Back to design judgments. That is more evident in design of, say, a chair. It would be absolutely unfair to judge bit clumsy look of predecessors of Aeron chair from eight decades ago in a manner that I mentioned above.
Funny that you mentioned Mondrian, since I was to post my experience from my trip to Lima last summer which blew me away with thousands of minimalist residences. Watching masterful placement of windows within very subtle play of cubes brought my thoughts exactly to him.
About that next time…A lot of work to handle. Not complaining though.

Off-thread, what do you think about the idea of purchasing Facebook stock?

I won't be buying FB and have never bought any other similar offerings because I am genuinely "technically challenged" and have no "feel" for what they are all about. Another example of such a stock is SIRI (Sirius Satelite Radio, I think it is called). It's star is Howard Stern who (whom?) I can't stand (although I read both his books) and I say to myself "what happens to SIRI if Howard gets run over by a truck?" I never followed the stock but I get the impression some people made big money in it and the saga has not ended.

Another high tech example that I never got into, but could have made big bucks if I had, is Apple. Take a look at its long term chart (from inception in the '80s to present) and you will see the most amazing exponential growth. I arrived a little too late on this earth to get into the whole iPhone/iPad scene so, again, I have no feel for the stock. I find the sight of young people walking down the street with little white ear buds in their ears, while staring down into a smart phone disturbing.

Greetings Iona!

I've missed your voice on this blog. Welcome back.


To my untrained and plebeian mind, these are fine examples of penitentiary chic. The first is nicely set off by the hard, pragmatic lines of the shipping container in the foreground.
(Call me hidebound, if you will, but this is some extraordinarily unpleasing use of building materials.)

I must apologize, but I don't see beauty; only stark utility. If that's what you're finding so marvelous, I might agree.

(Sorry, I was responding [uninvited] to the Loos designs in their concrete forms. As an addendum, I probably shouldn't comment on things I have absolutely no formal training in, and my home would likely be found in shockingly poor aesthetic temper in comparison. I like it, and that may be the trouble! ;o)

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"I arrived a little too late on this earth to get into the whole iPhone/iPad scene..." -Kyoo

I'm sure you meant, "a little too EARLY", did you not?

I suppose it doesn't matter much, as I'm about to be subsumed in Dr. Oldandflaccid-Wang's blizzard of blither of Sino-esque Spider-webbery.
(Wipe your ass after you're done Old69; you won't smell quite so bad to the staff and they might bring you meds at the proper time. It's a helpful thing... really.)

INDEED, Spideys wpinning his webs

ooops, meant 'spinning'

'laundromat' for sale los angeles

How do you see this monetization happening?

I really don't know but there are people who see a huge captive audience and are able to come up with endless ideas of how to sell shit into this audience.

Have you ever attended a professional baseball or football game where you had no emotional skin in the game. When you don't care much what is taking place on the field you are able to pay attention to everything else that's happening. And what that is is the endless consumption of food and drink at ridiculously high prices. Plus the sale of T-shirts, penants and other memorabilia. The game itself is merely the mechanism by which a large captive audience is concentrated into one place where you can sell them shit. Marketing folks will figure ways to sell shit to the almost one of every seven people on the planet who pass through FaceBook on a regular basis.

Whether the prospect of selling shit to all these people makes the company worth $104B I couldn't say.

I'm sure you meant, "a little too EARLY",

Yes, I guess that does make more sense doesn't it?

Contrary to Vlad's Hobbesian war of all against all view of life, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People's board of directors just voted to endorse gay marriage. There is increasing unity among hispanics, blacks, gays, etc.

Romney will have an interesting time explaining why he not only does not support gay marriage, he also does not support domestic partnerships or civil unions. As if marriage is between one man and one woman.

Wait, don't Romney and Obama both have grandparents who had multiple wives? Let's talk more about Mormon influence on policy. The Mormon church has never repudiated past doctrines that treated black people as inferior.

The Mormon church has never disavowed the 1949 "Negro Question" declaration from the church Presidency which stated "The attitude of the church with reference to negroes ... is not a matter of the declaration of a policy but of direct commandment from the Lord ... to the effect that negroes ... are not entitled to the priesthood...

I just read several articles about the FB IPO, one more negative than the other. One went so far as to guess that the IPO marked the beginning of a significant bear market. All feel the company can make money but nothing that would justify its present or forcasted valuation. Using Google as a benchmark one article showed projections that would make FB a great investment disappointment over a 5 year time span and might disappear all together in 10 years.


Q says: "Using Google as a benchmark ... FB might disappear all together in 10 years."

Say what?

Google was founded in Sept. 1998 Google in Susan Wojcicki’s garage in Menlo Park.

Ten years later, in 2008, Google was still going strong and has continued buying up companies and coming out with innovations right up to the present day.

How is that a "benchmark" for FB demise?
What am I missing here?

Q, you need another grammar lesson because your spell check failed you.

You said FB "might disappear all together in 10 years."

Altogether means 'with everything considered'.

Altogether is an adverb which means 'wholly', 'to the full extent,' and that is the correct form you should have used.

All together means 'collectively'. The term 'all together' pertains to when a group acts or is acted upon collectively.

What you meant to say is that FB would disappear completely, from the business scene.

What you actually said by using "all together" is that all the FB employees would, like lemings, collectively do something to make themselves disappear ... which is highly unlikely.


like lemmings

About a month or 2 ago at 'OCCIDENTAL OBSERVER' There was a very insightful article about MZ and FB.

This is just anecdotal, but I'd say that of my 260 or so "friends" on Facebook, a dozen have deactivated profiles at any given time and over a hundred of them are almost never online. My educated guess is that a lot of the Facebook user base is effectively zombies from a marketing standpoint.

Everything about the Facebook IPO screams "speculative bubble" as far as I can tell. It'll be either hilarious or just demoralizing in a few months or years, when hordes of formerly ecstatic investors start crying about their Camp Pendleton haircuts. Facebook is going to have to really get its act together to keep that from happening. Maybe it should buy an oil company for cash flow.

What I really don't get are sites like Pinterest. I have really intelligent friends who are on Pinterest, but I can't figure out what the hell the point of it is.

What would the Republicans have done if General Motors had lost TWO BILLION DOLLARS? They would be screaming about the failure of Obama's socialism!

But since it was JPMorgan Chase that lost TWO BILLION DOLLARS, the Republicans are saying "it's just business" ...

Malinvestment is exactly what has happened in education, too. I recently saw an astounding set of statistics on law schools: in a year in which the average first-time pass rate on the California Bar Exam was about 77%, the pass rate at the Thomas Jefferson School of Law in San Diego was 33%, while Jefferson's annual tuition was $40k. By the way, it's unaccredited, as one might expect given such shitty results, so its students are ineligible to sit for bar exams in other states.

I imagine that Jefferson would go tits up without the current student loan regime.

The realtors will do just fine because Walter Hays is the best elementary school on the face of the earth. At least that's what Palo Alto parents believe. How could they not enroll their little snowflakes in that unique, amazing school?

As an alumnus, I find the idea utterly ridiculous. My education didn't really start until I transferred to Cornwall Elementary in Lebanon County, PA.

Romney said: "Corporations are people, my friend."

People have a pancreas, a kidney, a heart, etc. but corporations don't.

Corporations have a board of directors. People don't have a board of directors inside them.

AMR, you are correct that Walter Hays elementary school is the best ... today, in the 21st century.

You are making comments and judging based on your experience in the 20th century.

Today we know Walter Hays is the best because we have evaluations of student performance based on assessments like STAR (statewide assessment).

Students in grades 3-5 take the California Standards Test, a standards-based assessment designed to evaluate the students’ knowledge in the subject areas.

Students in grades 4 and 5 take the Education Records Bureau Writing Assessment Test, or ERB, which is used to evaluate student writing in six areas: overall development, organization, support, sentence structure, word choice, and mechanics. Teachers use the results of these assessments to craft their instructional program.

AMR, you probably attended Hays at a time when these measures were not being used to provide teachers with an effective way to develop curriculum.

Finally, students in grades 3 and 5 take the Mathematics Assessment Resource Service or MARS test. This performance-based assessment gives students an opportunity to demonstrate their mathematics knowledge in a series of “real-life” problem solving tasks.

There is no doubt that Hays is the best. We have the data to prove it.

How to Save $1.3 TRILLION dollars by getting rid of waste and making the rich and the corporations pay their fair share.

Save $380 Billion == Let Bush tax cuts expire

Save $120 Billion == Close loopholes

Save $400 Billion --- get rid of Air Force planes (F-22, F-35) that do not function,

Save $400 Billion by closing down some military bases, downsizing military empire, closing down all foreign military bases with golf courses for officers.

That is how you can save $1.3 TRILLION without "austerity," without cutting any social, educational, medical, etc. programs, without taking food out of children's mouths, without balancing the budget on the backs of the poor.

filet, anyone? cuz those are sacred cows you re talking about, there...i mean, 'shoulda woulda coulda, but aint gonna happen'...

A detour from the Clusterfuckian path here, but perhaps an important one.

Petras may be a bone-hard socialista, but his points are most revealing.
The co-option of terms and connotations by rapacious plutocrats and their toadies limits understanding, which is the the desired outcome, of course.

Some may consider Kyoo of the Schtick, or Q the qualifier to be frustratingly focused on specifics of language and its' meanings, but as we can see, its' corruption has insidious and absolutely deadly consequences. Those who purposefully change the connotations of familiar labels and idioms leave us without definitive expression, and should be exposed and vilified for such venal behavior in the service power and financial gain. (It bears repeating that wealth buys power, and power, in turn, serves wealth.)

For those of us of the sweat-stained collars, expression in language is about all we have to "petition" with, and that would be why it's being removed, or corrupted in such a way as to drain it of meaning.

Frank Luntz is not an admirable character; if there be a Prince of Darkness, he's in his direct employ. A peek at Herr Luntz here:

...And so we wonder why very few have ever heard of the Confabulation for the New Urbanism. Wonder no more; it's not in the interest of those who control the levers of the money machine. It's meant to construct things that last and are cared for; no profit in obsolescence and replacement in that. It does not serve the current dominant paradigm.

Hey, Charlie,
Way, way, waaaaay off the pig ranch on this one, but a cross of Beefsteak and Bradley sounds really good! If you should have a chance (or the room) try some Brandywines. I'm not sure if I prefer Johnny's or Burpee's version of that one, so a careful eye is being kept on both this year. They are also not too pretty (large, misshapen and wrinkly), but they're unbelievably meaty and flavorful. I sent Tripp a photo of one we grew last year that was a "dollar bill" across. (I used the dollar for scale.)

Debaro is a nice variety for sauces and canning, as it also has a high ratio of flesh to seed, and has a "finish" taste that's just a touch on the sweet side. They're reminiscent of a Roma, but the flavor is better (and more intense) and the flesh is much smoother (not "mealy" like most Romas).

Yes, your dad can grow t'maters better'n my dad... still...
See you in the street; no misfires this time! ;o)

ha ha, i kin lob another: he s also working on a cherry/plum hybrid that looks like a little bitty roma, but tastes like a salad tomato i ve ever used...SPLAT!!! did i getcha?

Shitskis, I'm not enjoying your accuracy!
(Sounds like another winner, if'n it grows well. Tasting like a tomato has always been a challenge for the cherry-type; easy to grow, but that's about it. Some actually prefer their taste to "real" t'maters, but that ain't me.)

i mean, 'shoulda woulda coulda, but aint gonna happen'...

CFT, can I borrow your crystal ball?

I've already seen so much good change in my lifetime that I can't make such absolute statements as you do in saying: "but ain't gonna happen"

A big "Howdy Boys and Girls" from LBendet.
(She'll be reading along, so I suppose you could yell at her by addressing your response to "LB", or something she'd recognize.)

She sez:

"Waste is the harbinger of self destruction

What we've been witnessing is a complete disconnect on how money should be used. It is the moment that money should be used effectively whether it's investment in energy and other infrastructure while we still have some capital, but it is being squandered in the most egregious ways.

E. is right when he says that the way the economy is being handled, is the least effective way that Bernanke could have used the FED's money, creating no wealth at all but inundating a system that can only go down as it is more clear that it builds nothing.

The spying on citizens and the huge build-up of privatized security firms---Stasi meets reality TV--the mark of a failed state.

The siren song of our lord and master, "filthy lucre" has lured our best and brightest to the completely unproductive world of the stock market, but what I really want to discuss is the tremendous waste that the richest 1% are committing in the name of politics and control of the government.

Yes, let's keep cutting taxes for those who park their money outside the country as Making Mr. Right, Romney does and extract money from businesses for the wealth of a few. That's the model.

Thanks to SCOTUS Citizen's United…The corporation are people ruling claims this is a case of freedom of speech-only you can't know who' s talking, now that's Orwellian in a way that only a failed state can pull off.

These people are spending billions on negative ads to influence the rabble as they listen to one distortion after another---the money is being spent to set the under-informed rabbles' teeth on edge promoting the civics war between the two parts of a duopoly posing as opposing teams while the country goes wanting for re-building infrastructure and any kind of functioning economy. (or maybe the duopoly is experiencing self hate, but heck, I'm no shrink)---Again, think of how their billions could have been spent in a functional economic model.

When I was growing up, labor was touted as the backbone of the economy. We all stood on the shoulders of the manufacturing base and the benefits were exponential. Now this group of Neo's came up with the brilliant idea to go global, transfer the industrial and technical base to China for cheap labor and currency exchange differentials.
The American worker, you ask? --he'll find something else to do--whatever and now we're all standing on shifting sands, which is why every time the stock market hiccups we go into a downward spin. The calculus of change is in the air.

The options on where to make your money grow now limited to far less choices. The decisions the president can make are limited to just nibbling around the edges of a problem because of the payola and lobbyists.

Instead of playing chess--our leadership is reduced to playing Chinese checkers."


(I will post this again, if it should prove germane tomorrow. ...Back outside; see yez.)
































































































The options on where to make your money grow now limited to far less choices.

So this is the goal: make your money grow?

A life spent trying to make metals or pieces of paper grow is an impoverished life, a wasted life, a life ruled by a hoarding mentality based upon fear.

I find aspects of the overall design "marvelous" even if it did not immediately take my breath away. Which illuminates Balkan's point that minimalism is often an acquired taste. And yet others assert that nearly everything a person likes is an acquired taste. From Richard Hare's "Nothing Matters" essay: take an aesthetic example, my parents may like the music of Bach, and I may want to be like my parents; but this does not mean I can sincerely say I like the music of Bach. What often happens in such cases is that I pretend to like Bach's music; this is of course in fact muavaise foi - hypocrisy; but none the less it is quite often by this means that I come in the end to like the music. Pretending to like something, if one does it in the right spirit, is one of the best ways of really getting to like it. It is in this way that nearly all of us get to like alcohol. Most developed art is so complex and remote from what people like at first experience, that it would be altogether impossible for new generations to get to enjoy the developed art of their time, or even that of earlier generations, without at least some initial dishonesty

Essentially, engaging in an aesthetic experience takes some effort and a willingness to suspend typical modes of everyday engagement, or at least that is how I read Hare. And yet, once in a very great while "The Sublime" knocks the aesthetic breath out of a soul, leaving one speechless. Only later does one come back to the work and try to process it on more familiar levels, if that is ever indeed possible with truly great works that are layered with multiple interpretations/experience.

But just because every work of art doesn't detonate like an aesthetic atomic bomb, it doesn't mean that other works are not worth bending an ear for in order to hear and appreciate. Indeed as Hare asserts, much of what we do like is an "acquired taste".

Q, you need another grammar lesson because your spell check failed you.

If you will recall I announced 2 or 3 months ago that my spell check was not working. And it still is not working. My son-in-law, an IT expert, has not been over for a visit for months because he is busy with evening college courses/homework etc. He and my daughter live in NYC. (I just realized it was one year ago tomorrow that I performed their wedding ceremony in Central Park.)But I digress...

Even if my spell checker was working it would not have identified "all together" as an error. I will have to take full blame for that error.

Killing two birds with one post...
Google was used as a benchmark in the article I read as an example of a highly successful high tech company. The author of the article showed various fundamental data, such as the annual rate of growth of revenues over a five year period, and made a case that FB was highly unlikely to come anywhere near equaling Google's performance.

A comment to the comments of Asoka and Kyooshtik on rear-end hygiene.

Let's divide people of the world into two categories: ass-wipers and ass-washers. There are other methods of fundament-cleaning, of course, but the above two are the ones that count. A couple of questions: Which method uses up more resources? Which produces more pollution? People who are interested in the ongoing environmental assault, like those on this blog, may want to know. Anyone have the answers?

Water is superior to toilet paper because toilet paper smears. This is world-wide knowledge. Yet we in the West, compared to the people of, say, India and the Middle-East, have never taken this knowledge to heart. God alone knows why. I have to wonder if this particular difference gives Hindus and Moslems one more reason to despise us: those Americans, those Europeans, those Christians; they put themselves at the apex of civilizational pyramid yet they still haven't learned how to clean their arseholes.

can you give more info on Bidets etc? if you have, thanks.

Good points to ponder on the very nature of aesthetic sensibilities.
Thanks. (I don't feel quite so self-marginalized by my lack thereof. From an old joke, I used to quip [and still do], "I've got a lot of class; it's all low, but I got a lot of it.")

Slewing out of my regular lane momentarily, as it's sorta by proxy (AMR, I gotta cut this out!):

I'm a little surprised that's all you chose to comment on in LBendet's entire post, but I haven't a dog in that particular fight, so mebbe LB will e-mail me a response thereto. We'll see. Stay solvent...

Your comments about Walter Hays are a perfect example of why so many of us scroll past your comments and consider you a joke or a disgrace. You totally missed the sarcasm in my original post about Walter Hays and condescendingly implied that you know more about that school because you dredged up some test statistics than I know having attended it for four years. I should add that my parents still own the house where we lived in Palo Alto, that I have remained in touch with numerous family friends in and near Palo Alto, and that I have met every set of my parents' tenants over the past two decades and come to know two of the families quite well.

Not to put too fine a point on it, I am qualified to comment on Palo Alto and you are not. If you were qualified you wouldn't lean on out-of-context statistics or misrepresent my prior comments.

The manner in which you presented those test scores is the calling card of the Asperger's-spectrum quant. I can tell you from personal experience that when I was enrolled at Walter Hays, through the spring of 1992, the curriculum was hobbled by stupid politically correct bromides and inflexible teachers, one of whom told me that I would have to wait until the following year to learn about negative numbers. A good teacher simply does not hold back a student in that fashion. I can't speak to what has happened to the Walter Hays curriculum since I left, but I can say that Palo Alto remains a hotbed of political correctness, so I doubt that I'm far off base. Walter Hays is probably still subjecting its students to stupid and demeaning PC curricula that do nothing to truly educate them.

There is simply no way in hell that any school can take full credit or be assigned full blame for the test performance of its students. Palo Alto is swarming with PhD's and other highly educated parents who care deeply about their children's educational achievement and about properly educating them at home. A lot of the kids there are innately very smart, too, having been conceived by high-IQ parents who made sure to get competent prenatal and early childhood medical care. Walter Hays can teach a bunch of bullshit and still end up with decent test scores, while schools in much of the country would have trouble achieving decent scores, even with gifted teachers teaching a sound curriculum, because their students are innately less intelligent, have higher incidences of early childhood pathologies, and are raised by parents who don't give a shit about education.

At this point, I won't even try to describe the other ways in which a school can be a rotten institution and a terrible place for children regardless of its test scores or its curriculum. Numerical rankings are the intellectual crutch of Asperger's-spectrum quants and the credulous. I have attended highly-ranked schools that were either worthless or evil. Which am I to believe, your statistics or my lying eyes?

No longer a musician union membah?!... Soker-puppets abound - the discussion here makes me want to hurl - same ones spew same sh!t, ad nauseum.

Will they follow the rules tomorrow? (Wait 12-18 hours before trolling, and not re-poast last weeks fraud) "Don't ask me why."

Time to short faceplant? I say yes - that byotch can't be worth more than about 5-6 billion, *TOPS*. Will silver dip *yet again* into the 27/oz territory? Will the Euro trade at 1.26, and the Pound at 1.54? Will the 10-year US treasury maintain it's 1.66-1.7% rate? Will oil stay around 92-96/bbl? LOL, what a friggin' joke.

*INSIDE JOB*, indeed (recommended video).

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Better late.... Since this one was about Design, I thought I would comment on something I have noticed over the years regarding furniture.
When I was young, almost all furniture was solid wood. Sure, at some point some things had plywood backs or bottoms, but the frames etc were all solid pieces of wood.
Back in the '80s I started noticing a change to parts of things being made of 'particle board', basically sawdust held together with glue.
Then it progressed to whole items being made of this stuff. Now it seems that you can't go into a furniture store and not find something that isn't completely made of this stuff, unless its a second hand or antique store. Just try going into Target for ex and finding something made from real, solid wood.
Here, in the tropics, we have noticed that people that move here with products made from that vs solid wood end up with it falling apart very quickly due to the heat and humidity.
Fortunately, you can still find furniture made from local, solid wood, and actually cheaper than the fake wood stuff.

Just an observation.

Oh, and the comments on the spam-bot are on point, it defiantly is showing signs of AI. It seems to scan the prior posts for key words of some kind, and then post something back with those key words.

Keep up reflecting the hate with love, Asoka.


Just spent several days in the San Juan Islands and Vancouver, BC. In downtown Vancouver you will see little veggie and fruit markets on the street beneath highrise apartment blocks. Who would want to buy their apples and lettuce on the street only to have to lug them up 15 or 20 floors if the elevators weren't working? Not me!
the suburbs have lovely architecture but no amenities that I could see.

Victoria seemed to be more livable as it is much smaller, as are some of the other towns in southern BC like Abbotsford and Mission, which are near agricultural areas.

As I live near Olympia WA we have a number of farms that support CFAs and a wonderful farmers' market and food co-op.
And i have my own well and septic.

Thanks for listening,
Jim of Olym

Try Lacey, WA, if you wanna go to a new subrurica.
They are bulldozing trees to put in single family homes far from walking distance to any place to get your morning cream for your coffee. I unfortunately live somewhat outside that kluster so I have to drive 12 miles to get to the nearest food co-op, but at least the drive is pretty with lotsa trees.

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Zhang Ping, chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission, speaks along a click conference among Beijing on Mar.five 2012. []

Zhang Ping, chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC), China's top economic planning body answered questions concerning China's economic growth and the real estate market by a click conference surrounded Beijing aboard Mar.5.

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Economic growth

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14.26 Today's referee is Chris Foy from Merseyside.

47 Enrique has been quiet today. But he tries his luck from at least 30 yards. In the wet conditions, his swerving, low effort curls just wide.

45 GOAL BOWYER (2-1)!!!

27 Pardew is patrolling his technical area. He doesn't look overly impressed with what he has seen so far. He is desperately short of a striker and needs as much of the Andy Carroll £35million that he can get his hands on.

Has Roy Hodgson got his picks right? Paul Merson runs the rule over his 23-man squad...

17 Responsible tracking back from Barry Ferguson on Nolan. Birmingham's captain eventually wins a free-kick inside his own area.

90 + 1 Intelligent play from Barton as there is a chance to counter-attack, but, inside stoppage time, he wisely decides to keep the ball and play backwards.

10 Johnson is thankful to see an offside flag after he failed to block a cross at the near post. Ameobi challenged Foster, but was offside.

14.09 Strange decision from Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias to use his programme notes for today's match to criticise fans for the 'barrage of insults' directed at Andy Carroll last weekend. Llambias also says of Carroll: "The abuse he received was difficult to stomach..."

14.57 Here come the teams. Newcastle and Birmingham make their way out of the tunnel. Can Carling Cup winners Birmingham get the three points they need to surely secure Premier League survival?

Adam Ridley tweets @SkySportsPeteF: "Newcastle 4-1 win! Nolan gets next two!"

54 Ameobi nods just over the bar after winning a header when a sandwiched between Carr and Jiranek.

83 Good to see Gutierrez quickly to his feet and not protest after a foul challenge from Ferguson. Foy has a word. Both players shake hands.

76 Jiranek follows Bowyer in earning a yellow card for slicing down Ranger on the half-way line after being beaten for pace.

36 GOAL AMEOBI (1-0)!!!

14.42 'Rearrange' by Miles Kane coming out of the St James' Park public address system. He is everywhere at the moment. 'The next big thing' etc. I'm not a fan.

14.47 With less than 15 minutes to kick-off, both teams now off the field after the warm-ups and will go through their final preparations in the dressing rooms.

77 Birmingham introduce Matt Derbyshire in place of Fahey. Attacking change from McLeish as he goes with two men up front.

14.24 Birmingham boss Alex McLeish makes two changes to the team which started against Wolves, with Keith Fahey and Jean Beausejour replacing the suspended Gardner and striker Kevin Phillips. Line-up to follow...

Marvin Heng in Malaysia says: "Thought there was going to be another goal galore for Newcastle and then the ex-player spoilt the fun. Should have hold on to the two-goal lead. It's one-way traffic so far but at half time, Birmingham could come out with some strategy. With 10 men they could still score...Newcastle has to watch out."

28 Ridgewell's cross from the left is hopelessly over-hit when Larsson and Jerome were waiting in the box at the end of what had been a promising move.

14.28 Chris Bateman tweets @SkySportsPeteF: "I'm a toon fan and i think newcatle will get a tough challenge today from the blues !!! Final score 2-2."

23 Jerome plays Beausejour down the left wing. But, with time and space, his cross is poor and straight at Krul.

33 Carr is a little lucky when only heading a long ball into the air inside his own penalty area. As no other Newcastle player is attacking and Ameobi is on his heels, Foster can even allow the ball to bounce before he collects.

14.49 That's now a few people backing Bowyer and Larsson to score today. Bowyer, of course, a former Newcastle player and Larsson was a January transfer target for the Tynesiders.

85 Nolan scuffs an effort from the edge of the box. The Newcastle captain has not been at his best today.

13 Ironic whistles from the home fans as the goal-shy Jerome sends a shot sailing high over the bar after a good run down the inside right channel.

82 Newcastle seem to be happy with their 2-1 lead and have eased off from attacking. Could be risky, as that Krul fumble proved, Newcastle do not look safe at the back.

14.50 David Brown says: "This could be a tough game as Birmingham need the win but if the Toon win it will be another big three points for our season. I'm going for a nice home win. Come on the TOON!!"

5 I speak too soon. Beausejour sends in a great cross. Fahey follows up with another superb cross, which wins a corner. Jerome is receiving treatment after an accidental elbow from Steven Taylor.

65 Another corner to Newcastle. Bowyer heads clear. Tiote collects on the edge of the box and, as usual, is encouraged to shoot by the home fans. Bowyer has charged out of the box after his header and forces Tiote to blaze over the crossbar. Great work from Bowyer.

57 Nolan cannot get a clean head on Barton's deep cross. Nolan can only flick the ball on and Larsson can clear.

60 Beausejour, Birmingham's makeshift left-back, is the target for a lot of Newcastle attacks. Simpson's cross cannot find Ameobi.

86 Ferguson is down after a challenge from Tiote. The Newcastle midfielder left his foot in and stood on Ferguson's ankle. He is fortunate not to collect his 14th yellow card of the season in the league.

14.07 Birmingham fan Matt Wilson says: "Today I think that we may just get a victory. Newcastle are off the back of a 3-0 defeat at Liverpool and also we probably need one more win to clear any relegation fears. Hope it's a good game."

55 Sharp intake of breath from the Newcastle followers as Bowyer breaks into the box, but cannot quite get a clean shot away when under pressure from S.Taylor. Krul can collect.


59 Newcastle are back on the attack. Enrique's cross is disappointing and Nolan's outstretched leg cannot control the ball.

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15 Gutierrez retrieves Barton's over-hit corner from the right. But the Argentine's fizzed, return cross goes out of play.

20 Abysmal from Ameobi. Barton played a brilliant low, 20-yard ball through the heart of the Newcastle defence. But, under pressure from Carr, Ameobi steps over the ball, fails to control and allows Foster to gather. Terrible from the striker.

Paul Saunders says: "I used to be a massive fan of McLeish but I'm starting to question his judgement. Down to 10 men last week against Wolves and he takes off a proven goalscorer (Phillips) against said team instead of a try hard (Jerome). We lose out LB today and no substitution and instantly go 2-0 down. It's frustrating!"

12 Birmingham are appealing for handball inside the Newcastle 18-yard area after Nolan and Ameobi get in the way of each other when attempting to clear a long free-kick. Nolan cannoned the ball into Ameobi. It was ball to hand.

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14.19 Still waiting on Birmingham team news...

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Ameobi makes no mistake from the spot. Foster went the correct way, but the ball is arrowed into the goalkeeper's bottom right corner.


29 The Gallowgate End is not happy when referee Foy whistles for a push in the back off Carr by Gutierrez. It was a foul.

75 One from the training ground from the resulting free-kick. Barton shapes to shoot, but dinks to Nolan, who is just denied by Foster when attempting to loop a header back across the Birmingham goalkeeper.

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14.22 Toon fan Ollie Leatherdale says: "Looking at this, we're below B'ham in the form table & we have nothing to play for so I'm worried our poor home form will continue. One player that frightens me is Jerome - genuine pace tends to upset us, plus they have the bargain of the decade in Ferguson. Still, whatever the result it's been a good 1st season."

42 Foster is having an unbelievable game. This time he tips over a rocket from Nolan.

53 Cheers from the Newcastle fans as Tiote leaves former Newcastle player Bowyer in a heap on the pitch with a fair challenge.

14.58 With the pre-match handshakes over and done with, time for the coin toss and then kick-off.

80 Let off for Krul. The Newcastle goalkeeper drops Beausejour's cross and the ball falls straight to Larsson. It is a tough, snap-shot chance, and Larsson scoops the ball over the bar.

14.34 I can't find odds on a booking for Cheik Tiote, but surely odds-on. He has managed to acquire 13 yellow cards in just 25 Premier League games. However, he has been one of the finds of the season.

63 Jiranek gets an important touch on Enrique's cross to take the ball away from Ameobi. But it is a corner to Newcastle.

19 From the resulting corner, Jerome heads clear Barton's delivery.

25 Larsson is allowed to run 20 yards through the centre of midfield and, as defenders backed off, he dragged his shot wide from just outside the penalty area.

21 Birmingham's Johnson has not had the best of opening 20 minutes. This time he swipes at a cross and only succeeds in sending the ball looping backwards and out for a corner.

70 Barton is fortunate to escape a booking after a misjudging tackle on Beausejour, who was shielding the ball.

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14.25 Birmingham team: Foster, Carr, Jiranek, Johnson, Ridgewell, Larsson, Ferguson, Fahey, Bowyer, Beausejour, Jerome. Subs: Doyle, Phillips, Bentley, Derbyshire, Parnaby, Hleb, Davies.

90 + 4 ALL OVER: Newcastle collect a 2-1 win over 10-man Birmingham, who remain in danger of relegation. Ameobi, and S.Taylor put Newcastle in front after Ridgewell was sent off. Bowyer gave Birmingham some hope, but it was not to be. Foster was man of the match. Stay with us for all the post-match reaction.

What a remarkable finish to what had been a relatively uneventful first half. Birmingham have a lifeline. Wretched defending from Newcastle as a long hoof up field from Foster is allowed to bounce. Krul rushes out of his goal and is beaten by Jerome. Coloccini manages to tackle back, but Bowyer is following up and his shot goes in after a deflection off Coloccini.

50 Beausejour has switched to left-back for Birmingham in the wake of Ridgewell's red card.

14.48 Ben says: "I reckon it'll be a 2-2 draw. Lovenkrands and Nolan, and Bowyer and Larsson. Enjoy the match."

41 Newcastle are cranking up the pressure against their 10-man opponents as rain begins to fall. Gutierrez curls an effort just wide of the post.

4 A very positive, early start from Newcastle. One and two-touch passing. Birmingham cannot get a kick. Nolan heads over the bar.

From the resulting corner from Foster's save, Taylor climbs the highest to win the header and, as Larsson makes a mess of the clearance on the line, sends the ball into the back of the net.

67 Gutierrez cuts in from the right and pulls the trigger, but it deflects off a Newcastle player and Birmingham have goal-kick.

30 Ameobi wants a penalty when tussling for a cross with Ridgewell. Foy is not interested and it is a fair decision. Both players were pushing and pulling.

14.32 If you fancy a flutter, SkyBet have been in touch. They say: "With Newcastle having lost only one of their 11 Premier League encounters against Birmingham, it's 5/6 for a victory for the Magpies, with the draw 12/5 and Birmingham 7/2."

90 + 3 Birmingham are losing their temper. Larsson is booked for dissent after accusing Ameobi of diving under his challenge. McLeish is also irate.

18 Barton forces Foster to tip behind for a corner from a pitching 30-yard effort. The ball was probably drifting wide, but better to be safe than sorry from Foster.

26 Nolan receives a ticking off from referee Foy for an off-the-ball scuffle. Newcastle's captain is being shadowed by Ferguson.

14.11 As regular as clockwork on a Saturday afternoon, Cian Hughes has emailed to say: "I can't wait for the start of this! Tough game! I will go for a 3-1 win for Birmingham with Larsson, Bowyer and Carr."

13.30 Welcome to our live and interactive coverage of the Premier League match between Newcastle and Birmingham. Team news to follow...

9 Ameobi looks to get behind the Birmingham box. But he cannot stop the ball from bouncing out for a goal-kick.

45 + 2 HALF-TIME: After a dramatic final 10 minutes of the first half, it is half-time with Newcastle 2-1 in front against Birmingham. Ameobi scored from the penalty spot after Ridgewell was sent off. S.Taylor then made it 2-0 with a header from a corner. But Bowyer pulled one back for relegation-threatened Birmingham. Let me have your thoughts at or via Twitter @SkySportsPeteF.

70 Nile Ranger looks set to come on for Newcastle.

22 Coloccini and Tiote are unable to make anything from Barton's corner.

52 Good header from Ameobi to knock down for Lovenkrands inside the penalty area, but Johnson has tracked Lovenkrands and can defend the danger.

13.58 Twelfth-placed Newcastle will want to respond to their 3-0 defeat at Liverpool last weekend, as manager Alan Pardew still has his sights on a top-10 finish. But life is less comfortable for 15th-placed Birmingham, who are still not safe from Premier League relegation and probably need another two points from their remaining three matches. A draw at home to Wolves last time out was a bit of a disappointment, but Craig Gardner was sent off.

14.38 The teams are on the pitch going through the final stages of their respective warm-up routines, while St James' Park is beginning to fill.

89 Birmingham do not think they have had the rub of the green decisions-wise today. Gutierrez appears to use his hand to control the ball before going down easily under a challenge from Johnson. Jerome is booked for dissent.

WE'RE BACK: Ten-man Birmingham get the second half going. This would be a memorable come back if they get anything out of this match. But they are in desperate need of points in the battle to avoid Premier League relegation.

KICK-OFF: Having changed ends at Birmingham's decision so that Newcastle are forced to attack the Gallowgate End in the first half, the home side get the game under way.

SkyBet say: "An action-packed half has seen three goals and a sending off, leaving Newcastle 1/10 favourites to complete the win, while 10-man Birmingham are 33/1 to make a remarkable comeback. The draw is priced at 7/1."

87 Ferguson is back on his feet. He is hobbling and is not happy. It was not a nice challenge from Tiote.

88 It is almost three for Newcastle, and probably should have been, but, with Foster beaten, Ameobi chips his finish and that allows Johnson to get back and head off the line. Aware defending.

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77 Another brilliant couple of saves from Foster to deny Newcastle. The second from Ameobi was particularly impressive, but any goal would not have stood as the striker was offside.

36 RED CARD!!! Ridgewell is sent off after handling on the ball. It all came from a mass scramble following a debatably-awarded corner. Coloccini won the header and Ridgewell is sent off for using his elbow to clear the ball away from Nolan when on his own goal line. A very good spot from referee Foy.

6 Larsson's corner is punched away by Krul. Jerome is back on the field and looks to be okay. Jiranek then gives away a free-kick on the edge of the Newcastle box for a high boot.

31 Nolan is furious when a goal-kick is awarded after he burst to the byline. His attempted cross clearly deflected off Jiranek.

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69 After brilliantly cutting inside Barton's half-hearted defending on the edge of the box, Beausejour attempts to slide a pass to Bowyer. But there is too much weight on the pass and it is a goal-kick.

14.52 I'm interested to have a close look at Jose Enrique this afternoon. Seems certain he will leave Newcastle this summer and there have been reports he is valued at £9million. He wasn't at his best against Liverpool, so will be worth watching today.

64 Barton's corner is directed at Coloccini, who is lurking on the edge of the penalty area. But the centre-back is quickly placed under pressure and the attack breaks down.

14.17 Newcastle team: Krul, Simpson, S.Taylor, Coloccini, Enrique, Barton, Tiote, Nolan, Gutierrez, Ameobi, Lovenkrands. Subs: Harper, Tavernier, Ferguson, R.Taylor, Donaldson, Ranger, Kuqi.

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2 Keep ball from Newcastle in the opening 120 seconds, but Ameobi's control then lets him down.

FT: Newcastle 2 Birmingham 1

90 I almost thought it would not happen, but Tiote has been booked. He left his foot in on another challenge. That is 14 for the season.

58 Corner to Birmingham after a brilliant recovering challenge from Enrique on the increasing threat of Bowyer.

61 Larsson is frustrated to give away a free-kick inside his own half. Barton's delivery causes problems, but Carr is eventually able to head away the threat.

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58 Ameobi is able to head clear at the corner, before Lovenkrands hoofs up field. But Newcastle do not look convincing at the back. Birmingham still have hope.

7 Newcastle's defensive start has been as unorganised as their passing was impressive. There seems to be a bit of a panic and lack of communication among the home players when Birmingham get within range of the penalty area

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48 Newcastle are letting the ball do the work and seem intent on tiring Birmingham out with a passing game.

14.06 Birmingham will be without former Newcastle striker Obafemi Martins because he has had surgery on a stress fracture of his left tibia and will miss the remaing three games of the season. Martins joins Maik Taylor (shoulder), James McFadden (knee) and Scott Dann (hamstring) on the treatment table. Striker Nikola Zigic (groin) could be back in action. Gardner is suspended.

46 Newcastle are immediately on the attack. But Lovenkrands loses control of the ball.

13.49 You can contact me throughout the afternoon and I will do my best to publish all the comments that work the brain cells and/or raise a smile. You can get in touch at or via Twitter @SkySportsPeteF.

74 Shameless from Bowyer as he goes in the book. A cynical foul of Bowyer as he slides in to intentionally take the legs of the counter-attacking Tiote.

14 Lovenkrands wins a Newcastle corner after latching onto a long pass from Barton, who had appeared to regain possession by fouling Beausejour.

71 Ranger comes on in place of Lovenkrands.

73 Gutierrez gets himself into a bit of a mess when twisting and turning in the box and then slicing an attempt at a cross-shot.

39 Terrific save from Foster to keep Birmingham in it, for now. The Blues shot-stopper, who also produced a superb stop from Coloccini in the scramble before the penalty, denies Lovenkrands with a strong right hand at his near post.

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3 Barton looks for Ameobi with a long, cross-field ball. But only hits out for a throw-in to Birmingham.

43 GOAL S.TAYLOR (2-0)!!!

14.03 As we await the team news, we know Newcastle are set to call on Steven Taylor as a replacement for Mike Williamson, who has been ruled out for the rest of the season after breaking his arm in training on Thursday morning. Williamson joins Stephen Ireland and James Perch on the sidelines for the remainder of the campaign, while Hatem Ben Arfa (broken leg), Dan Gosling (knee), Danny Guthrie (ankle) and Alan Smith (ankle) are also missing.

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26忏悔:梦见为了赎罪苦行,因差异有异,会有不同的成果。不同阶级人的忏悔,也会有不同的成果。未婚男子梦见自己苦行,会娶一位姣美贤惠的女子为妻,温情��的妻子会在困难时代安慰自己,从不让自己焦急。本钱家或有钱人梦见自己苦行,收入会突然锐减,有可能衣锦还乡。但是穷汉梦见作忏悔,生活会富裕。禁欲的人梦见在苦行,会成为民族的领袖,能靠自己的聪明才干为国家或民族谋好处。企业家梦见作懊悔,会被迫降价出卖货色,获利甚微。但是已婚女人梦见在赎罪,因丈夫和孩子的身体健康无疾,所以心情会十分高兴、愉快。病人梦见作忏悔,病情会恶化。工作人员梦见自己在赎罪,会受到上司的褒奖,能官运亨通。学生梦见作忏悔,考试会获得优良的成就,因存在不凡的才智,能失掉奖学金。梦见别人在忏悔,是不祥之兆,会心情沉闷,愁云满面。梦见有人在苦行时丧生,是祥兆,变态传奇世界私服,人生会发生好的转折,有可能得到隐匿的玉帛。梦见敌人作忏悔,会永久以自己为敌。但是梦见朋友在苦行,求助紧急时刻会得到陌生人的帮助。梦见妻子在苦行,灾祸会降临。梦见与苦行的人发生争吵,将与能人为敌。 27献身:梦见自己成了敬神的牺牲品,会声威大震。女人梦见把自己当做牺牲品献给神,能全权处置家里的一切事。梦见别人扛着动物去向神献牺牲,是不祥之兆,要遭厄运。梦见把动物从主持献牺牲的人里救出来,意味着身强力壮,生活富裕。梦见自己扛着动物去供献祭品,会流离失所。已婚女人梦见拿着动物向神进献祭品,家里会生活拮据。病人梦见自己被看成献神的祭品,不久会康复。犯人梦见自己被作为牺牲供献给神灵,会免于死刑。 28死人:梦见与死人交谈,会扬名四海。梦见与已死了的人进餐,会长寿。梦见把死人抱在怀里,或吆喝死人的名字,不久要离开人世。鳏夫梦见已故的妻子,会与一位受过教化的女人成亲,她会成为自己事业的助手。寡妇梦见已故的丈夫,会遵守贞节,史册留名。 29供品:梦见供品,会有不愉快的事。梦见向神供献祭品,兴奋的事接连一直。梦见和妻子一块向神献供品,生活幸福,一切如意。处于生养年纪的女人梦见向神献供品,会生一个漂亮的儿子。有孩子的女人梦见向神献供品,孩子身体健康,生活幸福。未婚男女梦见向神献供品,预示要拜堂成亲。这对男女恋人来说是最吉利的梦。囚犯梦见向神供献祭品,会长期身陷囹圉。病人作了这样的梦,是好兆头,不久会恢复健康。商人和商铺老板梦见向神献供品,要发大财。 尘俗篇30抛弃:梦见被自己抛弃的东西,将会得到,例如丈夫抛弃了妻子,预示他们的爱情会更加深厚。订了婚的男女青年梦见舍弃了自己可爱的人,这是他们要喜结良缘的前兆。梦见被朋友抛弃,生活将会遇到点麻烦。 31私奔:梦见不是和自己的妻子,而是和此外女人私奔,将会招惹祸事。梦见与情人私奔,出外旅行会陷入坏人的魔掌。梦见在竞选中打死一位投了竞选对手票的选民,被打死选民所选的候选人将获胜。 32情: 男人梦见陷入女人的情网,劫难会临头。梦见爱好孩子,家里会发生令人担心的事情。少女梦见被自己爱恋着的男人,父母会阻拦自己的亲事,心中会发生不尽的幽忧。梦见自己所爱的人却不爱自己,生活会成功。 33妻子:梦见拥抱妻子,是不祥之兆,会与妻子分家。梦见与妻子拌嘴,夫妻恩爱,生活幸福、美满。囚犯梦见与妻吵架,很快能见到妻子。梦见和妻分离,会更加溺爱妻子。梦见找了一位好吵闹的妻子,生活会幸福、舒服。 34发誓:梦见自己发誓,不幸会来自表里。梦见在寺庙或宗教圣地发誓,是好兆头,自己的愿望会实现。女人梦见向自己的丈夫起誓,夫妻会有隔膜。犯了罪的人梦见发誓,又会去作案。男女恋人梦见在神的眼前发誓,两人会各奔前程,分道扬镳。 35提议:男人梦见向与自己没有爱情或婚姻关系的女人提出非礼的要求,将会得到爱情。女人梦见向与自己没有恋爱或婚姻关系的男人提出非礼的要求,健康会盛极一时。梦见提议做生意,意味着想经商,这种思想由来以久,但未能打定主意,想在别人的帮助下作出决议。 36少女:梦见婀娜多姿、婷婷玉立的,是祥瑞。姑娘梦见少女,会迟迟嫁不出去。已婚女子梦见少女,是不祥之兆,丈夫会谢绝收入来源。 37接吻:梦见和不熟习的人接吻,会陷入敌人的骗局。梦见和本国人接吻,能征服敌人。梦见吻妻子或孩子,或与他们接吻,会不爱他们。梦见吻敌人,会与他们媾和。小伙子梦见与恋人接吻,是祥瑞,很快要结为伉俪。 38世俗:男人梦见离弃了世俗,夫妻生活会幸福。女人梦见抛弃了世俗生活,意味着日子幸福、富裕。未婚男子梦见脱了俗,会娶一位眉清目秀的姑娘为妻。未婚女子梦见脱离了世俗,婚姻会美满。罪人梦见脱离了尘凡,服刑期会延伸。病人梦见脱离了世俗,会卧床不起,忍受病痛的熬煎。商人梦见脱了俗,生意会发财。惯犯梦见脱离了红尘,很快会被拘捕。国王梦见脱离了世俗,是不祥之兆,会被迫离开王位,或者国家发生暴乱要求他下台。比丘梦见离开了红尘,会从新返俗,与家人团聚。 39闪电:梦见十分刺眼的闪电,要去外国旅行。梦见远处雷打电闪,要遭受损失和不幸。学生梦见打雷闪电,是祥兆,能取得优异的测验成绩。少女梦见打雷闪电是吉兆,会嫁到一个有名声的家庭。男性病人梦见打雷闪电,身体会恢复。梦见雷电事后,四处一片黝黑,意味着灾害临头,灾祸有可能落到做梦人的头上也可能降到受自己掩护的人头上。梦见不断闪电,看不清道路,只好摸黑走路,会击败对手,渡过难关和不幸。梦见差一点儿被雷电击伤,灾难可以免。梦见外出时,好天打雷,要想提升,困难重重。农民梦见闪电,要发生旱灾和饥馑。 40清风:梦见清风渐渐,会交好运。梦见刮污风,会受到疼痛和不幸。呼吸到薰风,意味旅行安然、成功。商人梦见呼吸到香风,是生意获利的吉兆。相反梦到呼吸到浑浊的空气,会大难临头。病人梦见呼吸到清爽的空气,疾病会霍但是愈,但是梦见呼吸污浊的空气,将要忍受不幸和痛苦。 41向阳:男子梦见向阳,要交好运,生活会幸福。女人梦见旭日,要生一个男孩,孩子长大后会成为一位出色的人物。男人梦见夕阳,要遭厄运。已婚女子梦见斜阳,会生一个女孩。未婚女子梦见落日,要嫁给一个穷鬼家。梦见正午的太阳,会被提升。病人梦见正午的太阳,不久身体会康复。囚徒梦见正午的太阳,能很快恢复自由。家贫如洗的人梦见正午的太阳,能得到意外的钱财。梦见太阳突然被乌云遮住,倒楣的日子要来到。梦见阳光洒落在自己的床铺上,不是好兆头,意味着要生病。梦见住房里洒满阳光,生活会幸福、愉快。梦见骄阳似火,会患眼疾。商人梦见烈日,生意会亏损。旅游者梦见骄阳,途中会遇到很多困难和事变。梦见在烈日下睡觉,会身陷困境,但是最后能取成功。
44彩虹:已婚须眉梦见彩虹,是祥兆,生活会幸福,充斥恋情。已婚女人梦见彩虹,会与丈夫持久分别。未婚男子梦见彩虹,不久就要成婚。未婚女子梦见彩虹,会嫁给一名聪慧能干关心自己的丈夫。热恋中的男子梦见彩虹,是喜兆,会与情人相处得很幸福。分开家的人梦见彩虹,不久要回家,与妻子和孩子团圆。病人梦见彩虹,身体很快康复。囚犯梦见彩虹,健康会江河日下,体重削减。兵士梦见彩虹,不久会上火线,加入剧烈的战役。农夫梦见彩虹是吉兆,能获大丰产。商人梦见彩虹,是吉祥之兆,生意会吃亏。游览者梦见彩虹,自己的目的必定能实现。亡命者梦见彩虹,会很快回到自己的故国。梦见半截彩虹,灾祸会临头。 45雷鸣:梦见雷雨鸿文,事业会成功。已婚女子梦见暴雨雷鸣,会更爱自己的丈夫。未婚女子梦见大雨瓢泼、雷声轰鸣,,会嫁给有名气的人。商人梦见雷声高文,会发大财。病人梦见大雨瓢泼、雷声轰鸣,身体很快会痊愈。监犯梦见暴雨雷鸣,不久会出狱。 46寒风:梦见北风凛凛,侵入肌骨,未几会有好新闻。已婚女人梦见刮寒风,冻得身体直发抖,很快要应邀回外家。梦见刮起湿风,会有贵客登门。已婚女人梦见刮湿风,很快要怀孕。梦见刮来阵阵热风,要生病。 47暴风雨:梦见暴风雨降临,会得到不测的播种。已婚女子梦见暴风雨来了,生活充盈,儿女成行,丈夫的收入会巨增。未婚女子梦见暴风雨,婚姻会自立,能与有钱人结为夫妻。未婚男人梦见狂风雨,会娶殷实之家的姑娘为妻,生活也会富饶。商人梦见暴风雨,会想法倾销产物,发大财。病人梦见暴风雨,身体很快会康复。旅游者梦见暴风雨,观光会愉快。 48龙卷风:汉子梦见龙卷风,能找到掉散的友人。女人梦见龙卷风,女客人会登门。病人梦见龙卷风,病情会加倍恶化。囚犯梦见龙卷风,不久会与亲戚会晤。商人梦见龙卷风,生领悟忽然遭到挫折。旅游者梦见龙卷风,会保险地归来。
49下雪:男人梦见下雪,会富有。女人梦见下雪,所有忧虑都邑消散。病人梦见下雪,不久能恢复健康。商人梦见下雪,要到一个很远的国家去做生意。山区人梦见下雪,会离开住地搬到远处的城镇去住. 50下雨:梦见下大雨,事业会碰到阻碍,梦见狂风暴雨,所从事的工作会有好收入。女人梦见狂风暴雨,家里会遇到难题。与妻子和恋人分离的男人梦见下大雨,会与她们恒久分离。农夫梦见下大雨,是祥瑞,会喜获丰收。但是商人梦见下雨,生意会亏损。病人梦见下雨,会卧床不起。旅游者梦见下雨,旅行会美满停止。 51云彩:梦见云彩,是厄兆。梦见云彩被风吹散,天空阴沉,灾害会很快打消,并一去不复返。梦见太阳邻近有云彩,是吉兆,意味着在贵人的赞助下能解脱困境。梦见白云,自己和邻居的庄稼会获丰收。梦见乌云,住宅区会出现流行症。梦见彩云,街坊会发生流血事务,或敌人侵略领土。梦见在云彩里翱翔,会成为居住区的首脑。 52圆月:梦见圆月,要发财,得贵子。男人梦见晶莹的月光倾洒在地球上,钱财会被遮蔽,要失事故。孕妇梦见满月,会生一个美丽的男孩子。船员梦见残月,会遭可怜,帆海时确定要出事。未婚男子梦见新月,情侣会摈弃自己,,因为思惟苦闷,经常失眠。�女梦见半月是不祥之兆。病人梦见满月,身体很快会康复。 53月蚀:梦见月食,预示重要亲人,特别是家庭的女性成员要生病或死亡。梦见日蚀,会损失生活才能,经济还会受到丧失。女人梦见月半食,已婚的女儿要弃世。女人梦见日半食,意味着儿子生病或丈夫的经济起源减少。梦见出现月食或日食,天上充满乌云,身陷困境时,会得到朋友的帮助。
54篮子:梦中的篮子也能够作为女性的性象征。装满生果或其余食品的篮子可以象征健康。一个空篮子可以代表充实。 55发怒:梦见对别人发怒,会与他树立友情。梦见朋友对自己发火,他们之间会出现隔阂。男青年梦见对自己的恋人发性格,会很快立室。商人梦见厌恶自己的顾客,意味着顾客川流不息,利润倍增。梦见对尊长不满,生活无牵无挂,幸福愉快。犯人梦见审理自己案件的法官对自己暴跳如雷,预要被释放。 56工人:如果梦中有一个建造工或管道工来补缀你的房子,这个工人的意义是向你指出你自己或你生活中的一个问题,而且可能告诉你该若何去解决它(屋子 =你自己)。同理,工人在下水道工作也有一样的寄意。例如,如果一个工人在畅通下水道,它可以意味着你有一个情感的“下水道”需要解决。 57梦醒:梦醒十分,梦见已经睡醒,预兆会生病。已婚女人梦见自己醒着,要与丈夫分离。孕妇梦见还未入眠,胚胎有题目。未婚男女梦见已经睡醒,与自己恋人的爱情会更加深沉。病人梦见自己醒着,所患的病是不治之症。商人梦见自己未睡,生意要亏损,或者因生意倒闭,而愁眉不展。旅游者梦见自己已经睡醒,途中会遭匪徒的攻击。梦见别人未睡,是祥瑞,需要时会得到别人的帮助。梦见妻子或情人已睡醒,能得到她的爱情。 58年青人:梦里比自己年轻、又与自己是统一性另外人普通象征自己的纯真、无邪的成分,1.76毁灭传奇,这个成分还没有被虚假、布满野心、不适当的追求所传染。如果是这样的话,你应该去爱自己的这个成分,并以此为荣,保护,关心这个纯洁的部分。梦见年轻人还可能是潜意识倡议你恢复活气(不论你是人到中年仍是有些抑郁)或是让你的人格或生活有个发明性的改变或是转变。
59头发:梦见自己的头发长了,意味着得病受穷。梦见别人的头发长了,会厌烦世俗生活,离家苦修。梦见长了白头发,会难过悲哀。梦见用梳子梳头,生活会幸福恬静。梦见短头发,厄运是短期的。女人梦见自己的头发长了,配偶恩爱,幸福长久。女人梦见掉头发、剪头发,是守寡的兆头。女人梦见自己被人抓头发拖去,意味着死亡或由于不幸而离开自己的丈夫。 60投票:梦见投别人的票,要遭厄运。女人梦见投别人的票,夫妻会感情不和。梦见别人投自己的票,,会威望大震。女人梦见别人投自己的票,会威信扫地,臭名昭著。商人梦见别人投自己的票,会赶走竞争的敌手,能发大财。梦见选平易近在投票,会增添额定开销。梦见在会议时代有人投自己的反对票,会被人污辱。 61武器:有时象征性。女人梦见男人手持武器攻击她往往代表男人对她的性愿望。在梦里,女人看到男人手持刀枪冲过来,常会吓得匆忙逃跑,但是现实上这些梦者心里是需要男人以一种更自动,更攻击性的态度来看待她的。梦者真正胆怯的是她自己心中的欲望:盼望被男人驯服,愿望男人在性上占领她。 男人梦见武器有时也是代表性,特别是梦中的“对手”是女性的时候。但另一些时候,它代表攻击、敌意、恼怒、不外大大都的时刻攻打的就义者和袭击者都是你自己,是你心灵中的分歧部分。有时,武器被用于自卫,来抗衡可怕的敌人,这往往解释你的生活过于缓和焦急。 62金钱:有时钱代表自身。例如有人经济上比拟窘困的人梦到捡了大批的钱,非常愉快。只惋惜一觉悟来,梦中的钱了无踪迹。他叹气道:“如果我那时把钱存到梦中银行里就行了,那样我至少可以鄙人一次做梦时去花……醒着时虽是贫民,睡着了还能当财主。”再如某人梦见丢了钱包,第二天凌晨去看,发现钱包还好好地放在手提包里。但是手提包开线了。因而她赶紧修睦了手提包。此梦就是那个“我们心中的原始人”发现了钱包开线,用梦提醒她要避免丢钱。 钱还能表示价值。有个女孩子梦看法上有一个闪闪发亮的硬币,细心一看是一口痰。表示她一开始以为或人或某物有些价值,后来发现这个人或这个事物不仅没有价值,而且让人讨厌。
63阴间:可能象征失望,在这种情形下应当找心理大夫征询,减缓一些心理压力。有时,梦见到阴间也可有好的一面,它象征着为了你人格更完美,旧的你“必需死掉”。要确实地了角这个梦的意思,要看你在阴间的遭受。如果你在那边见到了光明,,那末这是较好的意味,象征你的意识能发明你的潜意识。老年人梦见阴间,有时是出于对死亡的担忧。在醒来后,老人还可能会为这个梦担心,由于他们常常有科学的主意,感到自己真的去了一次阴间。假如一位白叟讲到这类梦,个别应加以抚慰,向他们阐明这梦不什么不好心思。阴间还代表埋在记忆深处的东西,如果梦见在阴间见到一个已死的亲朋,这代表代回想起了他,或代表你的一种旧的感情或习惯的回生。64野地:梦走进野地、灌木丛,表现你抛开你当初的心态或生活,进入了这样一个状况,在这个状态里,甚么事都是可能的,自己必须做出抉择。如果是如许,你的潜意识在号召你进入一个成长的新阶段.野地如果很荒漠,象征着你的情绪生活很孤寂。砍头:表示惩罚。因而它多是告知你,你生活中的某种消极模式应得到改良。表示一种从过强的理性下取得自在的须要。所以应给直觉多一点空间。对那些书白痴型的人和太理性化而缺乏情感颜色的人来讲梦中被砍头是一件值得庆祝的事件。砍了头,你才会留神到你不但仅领有一个头,不单单是思维,你还有心,有感情,有精神,有本能,有直觉,你会成为一个更周全的人,更完全的人。 在梦里,这种人被砍头时,往往会觉得放松、愉快。例若有个密斯梦见人们排着队去砍头,她的头也被砍了,然而却并没有死,并且心境很好。咱们能够揣度这大略就是一个过于感性化的女人。砍头还有一种含意,就是阉割的象征。如果一个男人梦见头被砍,特殊是秃了的头被砍,往往有这种意义。这类梦使人十分焦急。
65警察:警员天然主要代表一种秩序、法令与道德的保护者。他也常常是“超我”的象征或良知的象征。梦中被员警追捕,表白你有一些想法和激动是你的超我所否决的。你应该想想,为何员警抓你。看看你是否是有些坏设法,如果是,就不要想了。或者,压服你自己的超我,让分要求自己不要过于严苛。人非圣贤,不克不及以圣贤的尺度请求自己,不然你会不输赢荷的。 66瞎了:自己瞎了,意味你对自己有一部分不懂得或不自知。你应该去问自己你不去看的是什么?是外在的吗?问自己你是不是对自己内部的某些方面有困惑?这些成份虽是由你目前的状态引发的,但实在它们都它们都是植根于你的心坎。试着去面临它,并追溯至生命初期。 瞎,可能意味着你不知道自己下一步该怎么做,或有没有助感。如果是这样的话,你应该向自己挑衅,不要找捏词躲避你对生活的义务。要控制自己的运气,这样你就不“瞎”了,你能明白地看见在你的心里都在进行着些什么。 67道路:梦见两条道路,梦中夸大两条道路的梦大多和选择有关。如果在做梦前的白日你正面对取舍,你更可以确信你梦中的两条道路正代表着这两种选择。有个梦者在求职的时辰,正在两个公司之间选择,当机立断。晚上他梦见:“我和另一个人一起走进一条冷巷,前边有二条路,一条向左,一条向右。我们进步了左边的路。在这条路左侧,有一个小屋,样子有些像个洞窟,小屋的门是绿色石的,上面好像还雕了一些困案。”(让我联想到印章上的雕镂)我拉开门,里面光芒很暗。我感到这个处所好像来过一次。像个洞。洞里左壁上有两个力士的雕像,似乎释教石窟中的雕像。像的后面有个窗,透进一些光亮。我想,比前次来亮了些。“回到这个房子(洞外边)沿着路往前走,前边的路又分成二条,右侧的路通向一间小屋。我晓得这小屋里有一个人,长么很像少年时的我。左边的路不知道向哪里。” “这时候我和阿谁人回过火来,转向了后面,也就是第一个路口右边的路,有一个老者从那里走出来迎接我们。我有一点遗憾,不知道那条我没有走的路通向哪里?”“梦中和我在一起的人,先是像A公司中的一个朋友,后是像日公司的另一个朋友。A、B两公司恰是我挑选不定的那两个公司。我现在正在 A公司工作,而较大的日公司又一个机遇让我进入。” 经由剖析梦,这个梦中,一开端就提出了他有“两条途径”可走,而后先让他看一看在A公司的近况和远景。犹如一个小屋,洞窟,绿色玉门样子像一个印章,代表在A公司梦者有一定权利。两力士像代表梦者和谁人朋友都必须十分尽力工作,尔后会有一些光亮。再向前的两个路是在A公司发展的两个可能的标的目的。转回来走向的地方是日公司,特点是在转向后,身旁的人酿成像B公司的朋友。接他俩的老人的特征很像日公司老板。因而可知,梦者虽对离开A公司感到遗憾,仍然是“转向”了B公司。
68婴儿:如出现在孕妇的梦中则无象征意义。非孕妇的梦中可能表过潜意识中想要个孩子的欲望。代表梦者(不管男性、女性)自己的懦弱、或盼望爱。你心中这个受损害的、自伶的局部应最少得到你的意识自我的爱,只有这样,你心中这个儿童部门才干成长,成熟。可以象征你的纯粹、无辜、实在的自我:即你真的样子,有别于你被各类外在情况。前提塑成的模样。象征你人格或你小我生活中一些新的发展。 69挨打:梦见自己挨打,生活会充裕。梦见生疏人挨打,会遇到困难。梦见家人被打死了,家里要增添生齿。梦见感动物,要发财。囚犯梦见被打,很快会被开释。老板:与你同老板的真正关联有关。另外一方面,特别当老板为男性时,是超我的象征。如果在梦中你自己是老板。有两可能:一是提醒你该以更配合、平和的立场与人相处,而不是处处像个老板:二是领导你掌握好自己。 70旅行:梦见单独去旅行,暮年会很幸福。女人梦见一个人去旅行,会威望扫地。梦见和妻子一块去旅行,婚姻会圆满、幸福。梦见和朋友一路去旅行,会德高望众。病人梦见单身一个人去旅行 ,会历久卧床不起。士兵梦见出外旅行,意味着要开赴前线,并能建功受奖。男性老年人梦见要去旅行,会寿终正寝。商人梦见旅行者,生意会破产。梦见与旅行者攀谈,会有好消息。梦见和旅行者交朋友,会受骗上当,但是能破财免灾。
日月:太阳、月亮出来:吉,有官可做官。太阳、月亮落下去:凶,忧虑怙恃亡故。吞吃太阳、月亮:吉,生贵子。太阳、月亮阴暗:吉,妊妇无病顺遂。太阳进入怀抱:吉,生贵子。太阳、与月表态汇合:吉,妻子怀孕。月亮进入怀抱:吉,生贵女。阳光射进屋里:吉,合适的职位被得到。太阳与月亮争斗:凶,事业大北。向太阳、月亮下拜行礼:吉,事业旺盛。日光、月光照在身上:吉,升任主要职位。太阳、月亮运行:吉,出错、罪被勉除处分。背或抱着太阳、月亮:吉,做大官、有大位置。 星斗:星星进入怀抱:吉,生贵子。星星腐化:凶,生病、打讼事。流星横串天空不落:要搬家家。流星呈现:凶,居家屋宇不安定。向星星、月亮下拜施礼:吉,进庙燃香灵脸。 天:天门子:吉,贵经引荐。红色天门出现:吉,做大官。到天上追求老婆:吉,儿女富贵。到天上拿取货色:吉,居王位,做首领。飞上天:吉,豪富贵。天裂开:凶,忧愁国度决裂、内哄。天将近亮了:吉,健康长寿。天与大地相合:吉,追示的事物均能获得.红云、白云出现了:吉。云从五湖四海涌来:吉,经商顺利。青云、黑云涌现:凶。云、雾飘游:吉,做事非常顺利。风声如雷:远方来信。风吹人的衣服:凶,要生疾病。虹出现:吉。彩霞满天:吉,事事如意。 降霜雪:凶,干事不成。雪落在屋、天井里:凶,家中会死人。雪花落在身上:吉,事业成功。雪花飘落但不沾身:凶,家内死人,做凶事。烈日炎炎而下:凶。道路上逢雨:吉,被请人宴席吃酒肉。大雨暴风:凶,灭亡。雷:打雷声:吉,仕进。雷声吓人、恐怖:吉,室第安宁。被雷打:吉,富贵。打雷后,又发生地动:吉,幻想实现。电:闪雷照着本身:吉。大地晃悠:吉,到别处做官。大地裂开:凶,生病。修平地步:凶。大地陷下去:凶,室庐不安宁。年夜地发光:吉,大富。火从大地而出:凶,生病。大地生黑气:凶。身上有土:吉。挖土:吉,有官可做。身子入土:吉。湿土壤弄脏衣服:凶。
扫地:凶,打官司.墙壁出现:凶,打官司。居住在高处:吉,富贵。摔倒、掉在地上:凶,丢官、失位。栖身在高山上:吉,有喜事。到深谷旅行:吉,春季和炎天吉祥。在土坡上行走:想着除去疾病。走在山上拾得财帛:吉,有福、有财。抱着东西上山:吉,孕贵子。山里出现农家:吉,衣食丰厚。上山感到惧怕:吉,收入丰富的职位得到。胸上或肚子上有土:凶,后代、儿孙有死亡。大石头出现:吉,发财。睡卧在石头上:吉。弄小石头:吉,生贵子。手从石头上拾得东西:吉,收入高的职业。进到山里去:吉,事事顺利。攀缘岩石、抱石头:吉,他处做官。枯木抽芽:吉,子孙兴旺。园中林木茂盛:吉。树木凋落:凶,住宅不安宁。    生活、睡在树林里:凶,生病医治。树木凋零:凶,人有灾祸。林子里长新树:吉,家里添贵子。栽种树木:吉。爬上树枝、枝折断:凶,有死伤。攀登大树:吉,得名、得利。大树落叶:吉,有朱紫维护。手掌上长树:凶,忧虑父母。大树溘然折断:凶,凶狠之灾。担柴不抵家中:吉,进财。房屋上条松树:吉,官居高位、门庭显赫。门旁边水果树:吉,妻子有孕。家里长身树:吉,家景变好、转富。家里生柏树:吉。房屋上生枫树:吉,事事顺利。走进果树园:吉,发大财。玉兰树生在房前:吉,增加子孙。 房屋上长桑树:凶,忧虑。果树成熟:吉,子孙安全。看到竹笋:吉,添子孙。砍竹子:凶,争吵、口舌。基地上树木:吉,富。砍伐树木:吉,寻求的东西可能得到。厅堂内堆有柴木:凶。厅堂内堆有桑树:凶,打官司。绿树突然枯干:凶,母亲生病。枣树许多、红红一片:凶,争吵、口舌。与人分花:凶,疏散、告别。花卉旺盛:吉,住宅安和。花开:吉,大贵。花落:凶,妻子体衰、死。棉花:吉,富、进财。别人送青草:吉,进财。割草:凶,受清贫。草从手里落下:凶,大病、恶病。花圃里漫步:吉,富贵。在水里:吉。猪落在水里:凶。不让水活动:凶,祸事。饮水:吉,进财。流水:凶,打官司被控诉。看到水:吉。看到洪流:吉,婚姻之喜。看到江、湖、湖水:吉,事业发财。水上行走:吉。站破在水上:凶。火从水上出:吉。大河廓清:吉。别人家有水:凶,儿亡。发洪水:凶。被水围困:凶,被控告、坐牢。
手执火炬而行:吉,四周灵通。燃火:吉。火烧山野:吉,权贵等。自家房墅被烧:吉,事业兴旺。身在火中:吉,贵人搀扶。大火烧天:吉,国家重要。火烧井:凶,生病。厨房火起:凶,急事。火焰炎炎:吉,发财。玄色火烟:凶,生病。火烧河水:吉,长寿。看烛火:吉,发财。灯烛亮堂:吉。登上高楼:吉,大富贵。高楼上喝酒:吉,富贵。家起高楼:吉,平和平稳。上城猛选人拖拽:吉。城行家凶:吉,出门吉。在城楼上执公事:吉,官职显赫。城与青色连成一片:吉。城上盖屋:吉。上屋损坏:凶,家境凶。厅堂内有棺木:凶,身安泰。屋角被遗盖:吉,龟龄。屋宅更新:吉。迁入他新宅:吉。在屋宅外居住:吉,妻子怀孕。适移破屋:吉,娶美貌妻子。屋下史过:凶,有见不得人的事。与人念叨房屋:凶。与妇人争屋:吉。屋梁忽然折断:凶。院宅建在低凹里坑里:凶,死亡。墙上挖土:凶。甲士人宅:吉。瓦落:凶,女人争住房。屋里生马:吉,儿子急住房。屋里生草:吉,家里败空。人寺院:吉,生贵子。寺舍有请:吉,病好了。迁徙居姑庵:凶,生疾病。起盖仓库:吉,福、财到。入仓库:吉。 仓库倒墙、破坏:凶。门户高峻:吉,富贵。新开门户:吉,大富贵。门户大开:吉。门更新:吉,生贵子。门户裂开:吉。门主动开了:凶,屯 子有外遇、私情。粉碎门户:凶。城门大开:凶,争吵、口舌之事。门户闭塞:凶,事事欠亨。门户内夫人:凶。修移门户:吉。石制门户:吉,长命.门前生草:吉,做官。门前有沟坑:凶,做事不成。屋开小门:凶,有私交。敲打别人家门:吉。有人入门:凶,打官司。天火烧门:凶,家人死,作丧事。挖开见水:吉,远信到。井枯涸:凶,财败。屋在井中:凶,生病。井中照身:吉,收到丰厚之职位得到。身随井而下:凶,生大病。取井水清:吉。取潭水清:吉。井水有泥而出:吉,进财。井被损毁:凶,家大败。井快干了:凶,家快破散。井中有鱼:吉,贵。看井听到声音:凶,生口舌、争吵。伏藏在井里:凶,犯法、坐牢。酒醉落井:凶,打官司。家住井中:凶,宗子有丧事。淘井、造井:吉,大贵。器皿落井:吉,大喜事。灶下贱水:吉,有横财。灶下燃火:吉,著名声。灶、锅破:凶,死亡。在官厨中:吉,获得收入丰厚的职位。屋有二灶:凶,事不成。灶下有东西响叫:凶,有争吵口舌之事。灶下吹火:凶,家破、离散。淘厕:吉,得横财。上厕、在尿屎中:吉。


17脚: 梦见自己的脚被砍,能当官。商人梦见自己长了很多只脚,会捞钱,梦见洗脚,预示着贪心。梦见踢别人的脚,会受别人辱。梦见脚烫伤,会因一时胡涂,遭遇重大损失。梦见脚肿大,会顾此失彼,欠债累累。



2鼻: 梦见自己的鼻子挺难看,是吉兆。梦见自己的鼻子十分丑陋,是不祥之兆。梦见鼻子流血,灾难要临头。梦见鼻尖上长脓疮,会被选拔。梦见大鼻头的人,会生意志损,与友吵架。女人梦见鼻子受伤,丈夫的家会污名远扬。梦见有人捉住了自己的鼻子,会受辱,或被人奴役。梦见自己的鼻孔大了,有犯欺骗罪的危险。梦见自己怕鼻孔痛苦悲伤,大难会降。梦见鼻孔生饭桶,亲人受骗。梦见马或牛鼻孔吐气,会有危险。















    "Lianhe Zaobao" reported on May 18, U.S. researchers found that a commonly used to treat bronchitis, pneumonia, ear infections and sexually transmitted diseases, antibiotics - azithromycin (Azithromycin for) will increase the risk of death.  solar panel
    The research, published in the "New England Journal of Medicine study reported that patients taking azithromycin the first five days, died of heart disease risk is not taking the antibiotics 2.5 times.
    It is understood that Vanderbilt University researchers on 348 000 patients taking azithromycin and the other millions of antibiotics amoxicillin (Amoxicillin) or not taking any antibiotics, patients were compared. It was found that the higher risk of death for patients taking azithromycin. solar cell

Even the best acrid men,adopt R86 contributor Asa Butcher,blaher to adjustable concurrently accepted alee a babyish panda. [Image:Radio86]

Radio86 accountists Asa Butcher and Iona Orbinski-Vonk are 692b16b7ab1f267d0418cc6f0444d1bcast within China for the 1st appearance among their resides. Their destination namely the alluring Sichuan arena - the family of panda bucks. In this blog, Asa acquaints our clairvoyants how one Englishman is feeing in the Middle Kingdom.

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Day four of Radio86's absenceion to Chengdu has accomplished me the affecting ability of one 5-word book. It namely a aggregate of chats that can burningly abuse affiliations among a admiring ancestor and his son,access long accords and ample admired aides with adulterationous backbiting

What five abbreviate words,dentped braid to artlessly exapparent one moment of a daytime can crusade such a acknowledgment? Well,bchase castigationelf: I hugged a baby panda.

How do you feel Yeah, I know,air tickets china, I know. Do you absence to apperceive what that acquaintance was favor adaptbuilt-inly accept you alaccessible affidavit by the awning and appointment the Back baseon? I assumption if you are still account again you are candid a crammer as abuse because I am afterwards hours activate...

It was additional only to the birth of my babes and,fabundant next it is a rather molluskmy alarm. I was actingted to man-this-up,get consistently brusque and testosterone on you,only I have to be hobackup and align those adult animosity out aboard the board.

As I sat with my arm about the angled accumulation of African and paboriginal beautifulness characterizationed Yuan Lin my academician battleed to dukele the affectionate mauguryt. Me. China. Baby Giant Panda. Hugging.not let's action and action that one afresh.

This may be cliché, which I abhor but you are actuaccessory absent within the moment. Pandas are, after any argument the cuanalysis beastly aboard the gaperturece of this event and to be sat alongside one of the babies of this abundantly incommon catebleeding was approxiacquaintancely also abundant.

After the nine ages-old panda had been yieldn back to his cover and I alternate to the sunflash alfresco apple, I bare a moment to accumulate my affections in brabandoned – I didn't want taerial staining my Radio86 bodice.

A few abysmal animations backwardr I had administerd to actualize a see alath my austereace that some may characterize as complacent I attackd apabout the reassessment of the Chengdu Reseek Base of Giant Panda Breeding seeing by the added companys alive that they would only experience pandas by watbuttong them in tbeneficiary encease and amidst bottle. The conceited beam is still here hours after and,if you ask accurately while I access domiciliary I'll appearance it to you.

It isn't generally that I am afflicted forward a moment and I appetite abundance tcorrupt few account always.

P.S: No, a panda didn't eat me,almost he absolutely did something.

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  贯通同阶蠼栳的时髦淘宝下水准***经,是每个女冉材幻念。进建女孩子正式场所***的手艺本事,挨制无缺形象。 “云念衣裳花念容”,相对恰好于稳重单调的男士着拆,女人们的着拆则明丽歉厚很多。得体的脱着,没有但能够隐得减倍斑斓,借能够暗示出一个今世文明人超卓的修养战逗媒的条理。 1、着拆的TOP本则 TOP是三个英语单凑婺缩写,它枚讨别代表时分(Time)、场所(Occasion)战天纸报Place),即着拆理当与那时的时分、所处的场所战天中肃协调。 时分本则 没有应时段的着拆法例对女人特地尾要。男士有一套量天上辰材深色西拆或中山拆足以包挨齐国,而女人的着拆则要隋分而变换。黑日工做时,女人应脱着正式套拆,以暗示专业性;早晨列席鸡尾酒会便须多甲蠡些建饰,如换一单下跟鞋,戴上颖モ泽的佩饰,围一条瑰丽的丝巾;服拆狄住择借要适宜时令天气特征,贯通同接与潮水除夜势同步。 场所本则 脱着要与场所协调。与顾客闲讲、插手正式会议会议等,脱着应安妥讲究;听音乐会或看芭蕾舞,则应按常例着正拆;列席正式宴会时,则应脱直的传统旗袍或西圆的少裙早号衣1正在伴侣会议会议、远足等场所,着拆应烦琐温馨。试念一下,若是除夜家皆脱便拆,您却脱号衣便有短沉松;一样的,若是以便拆列席正式宴会,没有可是对宴会仆冉材没有爱护,颐挥嗅令自己颇觉难熬。 天址本则 正在自己家里悲支客人,能够脱着温馨但整净的戚闲服;若是是往公司或单元制访,脱职业套拆会隐得专业;中出时要顾及当天的传拖玑风气风尚,如往教坛鲵寺庙等场所,没有能脱过露或太短的服拆。 2、职场女性着拆四讲究 整净仄整 服拆其真没有是必定要低级华贵,但须贯通同接净净,并熨烫仄整,脱起往便能够除夜圆得体,隐得容光奋起。整净拭魅正在没有完整为裂旁己,更是爱护他冉材需供,那是超卓仪态的第一要务。 色采手艺本事 没有开色采会给人没有开的感应感染,如深色或热色舱婺服拆让人产死视觉上的缩督残,隐得安妥宽峻1浅色或热色舱婺服拆会有扩年夜年夜感,令人隐得沉松死动。是以,能够按照没有开需供遏制选择战拆配。 配套完整 除主体衣服以中,鞋袜足套等的拆配也要多减讲究。如袜鬃笤透明远似肤色或与服拆色舱骥战为好,带有除夜花纹的袜子没有能登除抑诜十堂。正式、安妥的场所没有宜脱凉鞋或靴子,乌色皮鞋是开用最广的,能够战任何服拆相配。 饰物装面 奇奥天佩戴饰品能够概略起到绘蛇添足的感染感动,给女人们删减色采,图腾网。可是佩戴的饰品彩腔宜过量,可则会辞别对圆的重视力眼光。佩戴饰品时,应尽能够选择同一色系。佩戴尾饰最闭头的即是要与您抵章符体服室杨配同一路往。 正在尾要会议会议战闲讲、安妥的仪式战正式宴请等场所,女人着拆应静静沉着峻厉得体。 (1)上衣:上衣讲究仄整挺括,较少操做饰物战花边遏制装面,纽扣应齐数系上。 (2)裙子:以窄裙为主,年轻女性的裙子下摆可正在膝盖以上3厘米— 6厘米,但没有成太短;中老年女性的裙子应正在膝盖以下3厘米中心。裙子里里应脱着衬裙。真皮或仿皮的西拆套裙没有宜正在正式场所脱着。 (3)衬衫:以单色为最好之选。脱着衬衫借应重尾笤下事项R∧珊帽甭摆应掖进戎邳以内而没有是悬垂于中,也没有要正在腰间挨结;衬珊媚纽扣除最上里一粒能够没有系上,其他纽扣均应系好;脱着西拆套裙时没有要涂砺上衣而直接中脱衬衫。衬衫以内理当脱着亵服但没有成闪现出往。 (4)鞋袜:鞋子应是高跟鞋或中跟鞋。袜子应是高筒袜或连裤袜。鞋袜名目应以简单为主,色彩应与西拆套裙相拆配。 着拆没有要过于吐露战透明,尺寸也没有要过于短小战松身,可则会给人以凳荀重的感应感染 亵服没有能中露,更没有能中脱,脱裤子战裙子时,没有要较着隐现出***的概况,文胸的肩带没有能露正在衣服里里。 脱裙服时着***,能增强腿部好感。腿较细的人适宜脱深色的袜子,腿较细的人适宜脱浅色的袜子。 一样泛泛没有要选择素净、带有网格或有较开花纹的***。脱***时,袜心没有能露正在裙子里里。 总之,***是“形象工程”的除夜事。西圆的服拆设念除夜师感受:“服拆没有能制出完人,可是第一印象的80%往状心着拆。”是以,除夜家缎旎成以失落踪降以沉心哦! 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  第二章 奇怪的陌生人

  第三章 正式告白

  第四章 终于还是碰面了

  第五章 血红的回忆

  第六章 真爱的力量

  第七章 为爱放手

  第八章 有情人终成眷属第一章 情敌出现

  第二章 奇怪的陌生人

  第三章 正式告白

  第四章 终于还是碰面了

  第五章 血红的回忆

  第六章 真爱的力量

  第七章 为爱放手

  第八章 有情人终成眷属

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